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02-17-2010, 09:10 PM
#151
High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by Mamba
lebon abused artest twice this season. im not saying in a 7 game series he wouldn't be able to lock down lebron but artest will get tired alot older then lebron.
O' rly? My stats say otherwise.
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02-17-2010, 09:11 PM
#152
v3DreJ80
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Antawn Jamison to the Cavs done?
Originally Posted by kentatm
dude its not hate, Jamison just flat out sucks at D. He won't magically get better just b/c he is on the Cavs
Actually, I think they'll be able to mask it a lot better with Shaq in the middle defending the paint. Unless Jamison is one of those garbage defenders that don't even bother contesting shots. I think he's a garbage defender, but I think it can be masked better on the Cavs. What is your take on all this? Cavs team to beat in the EAST?
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02-17-2010, 09:11 PM
#153
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by The_Yearning
Did you forget Artest? Don't start sucking that Cleveland pipe yet, the Lakers are still the team to beat.
Dont Think so Cavs are So Deep..They will come at teams in Waves and of Course the Best player in the World LBJ...Jamison can score from Inside out and Cavs will be almost impossible to defend with LBJ Orchestrating..
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02-17-2010, 09:11 PM
#154
NBA All-star
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
I expect the Lakers to run more Bynum/Odom and Pau/Odom against the Cavs now, unless they want to take advantage of their size with Pau at the 4. Wizards are like those guys in fantasy who give up and trade all their good players away near the end of the season for nothing First Caron and Haywood for crap, and now Jamison for crap
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02-17-2010, 09:12 PM
#155
I rule the local playground
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Well jamison is a better defender than Stoudemire in my book.
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02-17-2010, 09:13 PM
#156
NBA Legend
Re: Antawn Jamison to the Cavs done?
Originally Posted by v3DreJ80
Actually, I think they'll be able to mask it a lot better with Shaq in the middle defending the paint. Unless Jamison is one of those garbage defenders that don't even bother contesting shots. I think he's a garbage defender, but I think it can be masked better on the Cavs. What is your take on all this? Cavs team to beat in the EAST?
It wasn't masked when he was alongside Brenden Heywood who is infinitely better at defense than Shaq these days.
I already thought the Cavs were the team to beat b/c Orlando went and screwed up their chemistry.
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02-17-2010, 09:14 PM
#157
High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by chazzy
I expect the Lakers to run more Bynum/Odom and Pau/Odom against the Cavs now, unless they want to take advantage of their size with Pau at the 4. Wizards are like those guys in fantasy who give up and trade all their good players away near the end of the season for nothing First Caron and Haywood for crap, and now Jamison for crap
At least the Wizards got Josh Howard in return for Caron. Cleveland pretty much didn't give up anything for Jamison.
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02-17-2010, 09:14 PM
#158
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by Mamba
so u have LO defending jamison, shaq defending pau who's left to guard lebron? kobe...lol.
Kobe actually did a great job last year on him. But still one of the main reasons we brought Artest in was so that Kobe didn't have to guard 3s that Ariza couldn't handle.
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02-17-2010, 09:14 PM
#159
Re: Trade: Antawn Jamison to Cavaliers in 3-team deal involving Wizards, Clippers
Originally Posted by Mikaiel
yeah, pretty sure he isnt worried about that
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02-17-2010, 09:15 PM
#160
I rule the local playground
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
besides, cleveland is the best defensive team in the league, its not like were desperate for defense. how anyone can try to make this trade into a negative boggles my mind, and thats why i called hate.
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02-17-2010, 09:16 PM
#161
v3DreJ80
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Antawn Jamison to the Cavs done?
Originally Posted by kentatm
It wasn't masked when he was alongside Brenden Heywood who is infinitely better at defense than Shaq these days.
I already thought the Cavs were the team to beat b/c Orlando went and screwed up their chemistry.
Shaq is the better helpside/weakside defender while Haywood is the better individual defender. But I do agree with you, I thought the Cavs could take out Orlando when they decided to roll with Carter instead of Turkoglu. Also, Shaq is still capable of containing Dwight Howard at this age.
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02-17-2010, 09:17 PM
#162
Local High School Star
Re: Antawn Jamison to the Cavs done?
Originally Posted by Undisputed
Thank God people can stop talking about Lebron being a free agent. Knicks fans must be crushed right now.
This is a clear indication by the Cavs that they are willing to give him a team, he's staying in Cleveland if the deal goes through.
lol nice team, cavs looking pretty scary
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02-17-2010, 09:18 PM
#163
NBA Legend
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by HeyMarkus
besides, cleveland is the best defensive team in the league, its not like were desperate for defense. how anyone can try to make this trade into a negative boggles my mind, and thats why i called hate.
umm... did I try and make it a negative?
all I said was this makes them worse defensively, Jamison next to Shaq is a terrible defensive combo and Jamison won't suddenly be good at D just b/c he is on the Cavs.
I also said it makes them better on offense.
You need to learn to process what you have read brah.
Originally Posted by v3DreJ80
Shaq is the better helpside/weakside defender while Haywood is the better individual defender. But I do agree with you, I thought the Cavs could take out Orlando when they decided to roll with Carter instead of Turkoglu. Also, Shaq is still capable of containing Dwight Howard at this age.
ehh, I would argue that but we pretty much agree that the Cavs are favs to win the East anyway so thats not really worth argument.
Last edited by kentatm; 02-17-2010 at 09:20 PM.
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02-17-2010, 09:19 PM
#164
It's all Turkododo do!
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by itsGameTime
At least the Wizards got Josh Howard in return for Caron. Cleveland pretty much didn't give up anything for Jamison.
Yep.
Cleveland beat LA twice, and just added a former All Star. People can shuffle around names & matchups on a piece of paper all they want, but Cleveland is clearly the best team right now.
LA can certainly come together and beat them (if the rest of the team keeps playing like they are now and Kobe fits in), but it will be a dog fight at most.
Hopefully Kobe and LBJ will both be healthy, and we may just get an epic Finals that answers a lot of questions.
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02-17-2010, 09:21 PM
#165
NBA lottery pick
Re: Wizards trade Antawn Jamison Cavaliers in 3-team deal; Clippers involved
Originally Posted by HeyMarkus
besides, cleveland is the best defensive team in the league, its not like were desperate for defense. how anyone can try to make this trade into a negative boggles my mind, and thats why i called hate.
Actually, believe it or not, the Cavs this year have a better offensive rating (2nd in the league I think) compared to defensive rating, which is 5th or something. I do think this will change in the playoffs though, which this trade is for, so it makes sense.
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