Physics Breakthrough: Recreating the Big Bang

[DonDadda59]

Big Bang particle discovery closer: scientists



(Reuters) - Physicists investigating the make-up of the universe are closing in on the Higgs boson, an elusive particle thought to have been key to turning debris from the Big Bang into stars, planets and finally life, scientists said on Tuesday.

Researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) are using their large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's biggest particle accelerator, to try to prove that the mystery particle really exists.

Poring over huge volumes of data, CERN physicists are confident they are now closer to achieving that aim, outside scientists with links to two key research teams at the Switzerland-based facility said.

"They are getting quite fired up," one scientist outside CERN but with links to the experiment who declined to be named told Reuters.

Strong signs of the Higgs were being seen in the same energy range where it was tentatively spotted last year, the scientists added, even though the particle is so short-lived that it can only be detected by the traces it leaves.

The quest for the obscure but scientifically crucial Higgs boson is being conducted by harnessing the LHC's high energy accelerator, which is located on the edge of Geneva, to replicate the Big Bang, the process scientists believe brought the known universe into being.

The Higgs is named after Briton Peter Higgs who in 1964 first came up with a detailed idea of what it might be and is the last major missing piece in the so-called Standard Model of how the universe works at the elementary particle level.

Its formal discovery, once it is endorsed by the world scientific community, would almost certainly ensure a Nobel prize for Higgs, now 83 and retired, and perhaps for at least one other European physicist and one American.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85B0EZ20120612

Apparently, the announcement may come as soon as this summer

[miller-time]

Big Bang particle discovery closer: scientists



(Reuters) - Physicists investigating the make-up of the universe are closing in on the Higgs boson, an elusive particle thought to have been key to turning debris from the Big Bang into stars, planets and finally life, scientists said on Tuesday.

Researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) are using their large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's biggest particle accelerator, to try to prove that the mystery particle really exists.

Poring over huge volumes of data, CERN physicists are confident they are now closer to achieving that aim, outside scientists with links to two key research teams at the Switzerland-based facility said.

"They are getting quite fired up," one scientist outside CERN but with links to the experiment who declined to be named told Reuters.

Strong signs of the Higgs were being seen in the same energy range where it was tentatively spotted last year, the scientists added, even though the particle is so short-lived that it can only be detected by the traces it leaves.

The quest for the obscure but scientifically crucial Higgs boson is being conducted by harnessing the LHC's high energy accelerator, which is located on the edge of Geneva, to replicate the Big Bang, the process scientists believe brought the known universe into being.

The Higgs is named after Briton Peter Higgs who in 1964 first came up with a detailed idea of what it might be and is the last major missing piece in the so-called Standard Model of how the universe works at the elementary particle level.

Its formal discovery, once it is endorsed by the world scientific community, would almost certainly ensure a Nobel prize for Higgs, now 83 and retired, and perhaps for at least one other European physicist and one American.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85B0EZ20120612

Apparently, the announcement may come as soon as this summer

its all bullshit. everyone knows god created the universe 6000 years ago!

[COLOR="White"]but actually it sounds pretty awesome :)[/COLOR]

[-p.tiddy-]

its all bullshit. everyone knows god created the universe 6000 years ago!

[COLOR="White"]but actually it sounds pretty awesome :)[/COLOR]

or maybe God created the Higgs boson...

figuring out why the matter exploded will never explain how the matter exists...just sayin

[miller-time]

or maybe God created the Higgs boson...

figuring out why the matter exploded will never explain how the matter exists...just sayin

i think you have that around the wrong way, they are figuring out the how, but that won't explain the why. explaining why isn't a scientific question.

[DonDadda59]

or maybe God created the Higgs boson...

figuring out why the matter exploded will never explain how the matter exists...just sayin

"You Don't Know What You're Talking About"

[-p.tiddy-]

i think you have that around the wrong way, they are figuring out the how, but that won't explain the why. explaining why isn't a scientific question.

I am reading they are figuring out "why" the big ball matter exploded and formed into stars/black holes/anit matter/etc...

not "how" it got there in the first place

[-p.tiddy-]

"You Don't Know What You're Talking About"

yes I do, and I GUARANTEE you there are plenty of thiests working on that project that see it the same way...

[DonDadda59]

yes I do, and I GUARANTEE you there are plenty of thiests working on that project that see it the same way...

The Higgs Boson aka 'the God Particle' is the how. 'Why' is a question for philosophers/religious folk or I guess you'd rather ask NDErs

[miller-time]

I am reading they are figuring out "why" the big ball matter exploded and formed into stars/black holes/anit matter/etc...

not "how" it got there in the first place

that is still a how question. how stars and black holes formed after the big bang event. why implies intent or purpose. as dondadda said, it is generally left for philosophy or theology.

[-p.tiddy-]

The Higgs Boson aka 'the God Particle' is the how. 'Why' is a question for philosophers/religious folk or I guess you'd rather ask NDErs

You don't know what you're talking about it seems...this isn't a how or why in terms of a creator

If you think this project will disprove the concept of a designer you're going to be very disappointed.


Not sure why you're so obsessed with proving there is no God anyway...strange

[-p.tiddy-]

that is still a how question. how stars and black holes formed after the big bang event. why implies intent or purpose. as dondadda said, it is generally left for philosophy or theology.

Okay well this isn't explaining how the matter came to exist, just how it formed into what it did...

[miller-time]

You don't know what you're talking about it seems...this isn't a how or why in terms of a creator

If you think this project will disprove the concept of a designer you're going to be very disappointed.


Not sure why you're so obsessed with proving there is no God anyway...strange

did he say that it would?

Okay well this isn't explaining how the matter came to exist, just how it formed into what it did...

that is the point of the experiment. no one is out to disprove god.

[DonDadda59]

You don't know what you're talking about it seems...this isn't a how or why in terms of a creator

If you think this project will disprove the concept of a designer you're going to be very disappointed.


Not sure why you're so obsessed with proving there is no God anyway...strange

You're really reaching now. When I posted about the Higgs discovery... where did I mention it disproved a 'creator'?

This about observable, testable, tangible fact, not nonsensical belief.

As with all discussions you stumble into ignorantly, this is probably one you should read up on before posting. Just a suggestion.

[-p.tiddy-]

Lol, we all know Don created this thread to throw it in the face of thiests...

Probably just Christians in general...

[miller-time]

Lol, we all know Don created this thread to throw it in the face of thiests...

Probably just Christians in general...