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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbot
    that's true. not trying to hate, just saying i'm sure there's a gagload of people right now thinking of/doing the same thing ur wanting to do. personally, i wouldn't want to get caught cheating them and getting the shit beat out of me in a backroom by a group of casino goons. that shit does happen.
    Its not cheating, or is "cheating" by your definition meaning winning legitly in casinos? lol. Anyway, things are more civilized now, they won't bring you to a backroom to beat the shit out of you. They probably just ask you to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgan3
    Its not cheating, or is "cheating" by your definition meaning winning legitly in casinos? lol. Anyway, things are more civilized now, they won't bring you to a backroom to beat the shit out of you. They probably just ask you to leave.
    i thought you were finding a way to cheat them. my mistake but i'm telling you, if someone cheated them out of enough $, you're ass is getting beat.

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    They wont ban you just for winning, because they figure they'll get it all back eventually if they let you keep playing.

    You can get banned without using a device for card counting. I know someone who's been banned from any casino from a certain company because he was passively counting cards. Meaning he wasn't using a system, but was good enough with numbers and had a photographic memory so always knew the odds. (He made enough to not essentially not work for two years after getting his MBA.) Basically they let you know that you're not welcome to game at any casino they own. It's not just talk either. He tried playing cards at a casino he didn't know was owned by them and he was asked to leave about half an hour in to his game.

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by EroticVanilla
    If someone is card counting and the Casino catches on I'm sure they're going to ban them.

    As far as banning someone who is legitimately winning it probably wouldn't happen, unless he came in and won millions every day for a while, if someone had that good of luck it would look like they were cheating.
    they are going to beat the living crap out of you, THEN ban you.

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by tgan3
    Well cause I do think I have a legitimate way to win in roulette. I've been testing on online simulators, results are good. But I want to continue testing more.

    From my calculations, with a $2/$300 limit table, I could make maybe about 2k in a day. With a $3000 limit table 20k a day is possible, if you are going to commit 12 hours, even 40k is possible.

    Anyway I would holla back if I managed to reach 40k with an initial 4k bankroll. If I can reach 10 times my bankroll through thousands of bets, probably whatever method im using really works.
    We went through this months ago.

    You can't beat roulette. The mathematics of the game are really really simple. Every bet you make carries an expected loss. End of story.

    You haven't found a way to beat it. That would violate a large amount of probability theory - something that would be far more impressive than cleaning up at a casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuck the Ficks
    We went through this months ago.

    You can't beat roulette. The mathematics of the game are really really simple. Every bet you make carries an expected loss. End of story.

    You haven't found a way to beat it. That would violate a large amount of probability theory - something that would be far more impressive than cleaning up at a casino.
    Actually a team of nerds did beat roulette. It was pretty ingenious. If I remember correctly, they bought their own roulette table and recorded tons of spins and found out that the imperfections on some tables would cause the odds to skew. They got it down to where they could predict what quadrant of the wheel the ball was most likely to land in a given spin. So they went to casinos and recorded roulette results on specific wheels. Someone would calculate what quadrant to bet on and send the message to their team member, who would then put a bet on every number in that quadrant. Like most cheats though they eventually got caught, and the casino's learned to swap out the roulette wheels every once in awhile.

    In Japan they gamble on these pachinko machines, basically it's like playing plinko from the price is right, only for money. Basically you drop balls and they hit pins back and forth, and whatever slot it lands in is what prize money you get. After awhile they found out that the hard core pachinko players could actually figure out where the balls were going to go because both the balls and the pins weren't perfect. So now by law the entire machine must be replaced something like every month.

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Banning a person in a casino is illegal. I think there are practically no such cases. Now there are many safe online casinos. I play Gemtopia Slot online and don't worry about security. During 15 Free Games, extra “Bonus” gems are added to the reels, with 3 or more awarding extra free games and an instant prize of up to 1000x bet per Bonus Gem!

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

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    Banning a person in a casino is illegal. I think there are practically no such cases. Now there are many safe online casinos. I play Gemtopia Slot online and don't worry about security. During 15 Free Games, extra “Bonus” gems are added to the reels, with 3 or more awarding extra free games and an instant prize of up to 1000x bet per Bonus Gem!
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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by harveywalters View Post
    Banning a person in a casino is illegal. I think there are practically no such cases. Now there are many safe online casinos. I play Gemtopia Slot online and don't worry about security. During 15 Free Games, extra “Bonus” gems are added to the reels, with 3 or more awarding extra free games and an instant prize of up to 1000x bet per Bonus Gem!
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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    or are you a bot

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

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    or are you a bot

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    This sounds really cool. Any advice on how I can get started with Gemtopia Slot?

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by tgan3 View Post
    Well cause I do think I have a legitimate way to win in roulette. I've been testing on online simulators, results are good. But I want to continue testing more.

    From my calculations, with a $2/$300 limit table, I could make maybe about 2k in a day. With a $3000 limit table 20k a day is possible, if you are going to commit 12 hours, even 40k is possible.

    Anyway I would holla back if I managed to reach 40k with an initial 4k bankroll. If I can reach 10 times my bankroll through thousands of bets, probably whatever method im using really works.
    no, you dont have a way to beat roulette. its not possible.

    sorry but math>you

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by tgan3 View Post
    Okay so im just wondering though, how much can you make a week a day consistently for years and be considered low profile?

    Im asking this again because I do think that i've found something that works and i just want to slowly milk the casino, afford a comfortable living rather then getting 40k in a week and getting busted lol.

    Or maybe im just thinking maybe instead of using just one casino i'll just play aggressively to get 40k from a particular casino in a few days/one week and once i start feeling "heat" move to another casino etc, even travel overseas to find new ones. sounds like a really cool lifestyle lol

    any advisers?
    they wont ban you for winning too much at roulette

    in fact they will give you free rooms

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    Default Re: Can a casino ban a person from coming in because he's winning too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by tgan3 View Post
    Dont worry, i'll holla back if I managed to reach 40k with my 4k bankroll. If I lose my 4k then well I can prolly do away with it and stop gambling. But the idea, potential that I can get an unlimited supply of money whenever I want is too enticing not to even give it a shot haha.
    so you, a random kid on a basketball forum living with his parents, has figured out a way to get "unlimited supple of money whenever I want"?

    but the thousands of people who have devoted their lives to math, statistics, game theory, psychology, and gambling didnt figure this out? many of which have millions (maybe billions) of dollars invested?

    yeah, story makes sense.

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