Best bet to average 25+ ppg on 50+% shooting?

[Fatal9]

LeBron James averaged just under 30 on 50% shooting (despite taking a large number of threes) last season. And he probably had more defensive attention on him than anyone in the league, definitely more than Kobe and Durant. Is LeBron a better scorer than those two?

LeBron was the best scorer in the league to me last season so yes (in a setting where he is very ball dominant though). Durant drops the most effortless 30 I might have ever seen though. Guy will have what seems like a horrific game but still end up with 30 somehow.

[ShaqAttack3234]

In the 90's, far more players did it like the following players.

Karl Malone- 8 times('90-'93, '95-'98)
Shaq- 6 times('94-'99)
Hakeem Olajuwon- 4 times('90-'93)
David Robinson- 4 times('91, '94-'96)
Chris Mullin- 4 times('90-'93)
Michael Jordan- 3 times('90-'92)
Charles Barkley- 3 times('90, '91, '93)
Patrick Ewing- 2 times('90, '91)
Tom Chambers- 1 time('90)

Use eFG% tard boy

How can you ignore free throws which is roughly 20% of the game?

Tard boy?

And I do use eFG% occasionally. All of them are useful stats that don't tell the whole story.

And again, I don't use eFG% as the only measure of efficiency because it 's a stat that can reward volume scorers too much in comparison to consistent scorers.

And who said I ignore free throws? I never said FG% is the only good measure of efficiency, just one good one while TS% is another.

[ILLsmak]

Here's an interesting thing to think about when you say it takes 3 2s to = 2 3s. And the whole 60/40% thing.

In an environment where all things are equal, more missed shots is still worse. Even if when you do make it, it's a 3, that doesn't discount that you are missing 1 more time for every 5 shots. That's giving the other team an extra possibly fast-break/non defense set possession. If they somehow score on it, then that's 2 or 3 less points you are getting, logically.

And that's without accounting for free throws, foul trouble, rebounding, or the fact that when you need a score 60% is better than 40%.

-Smak

[Sarcastic]

Oh great another retard who can only say things like

Shaq >>> Duncan

or FG%>>>TS%%

without saving a word to back it up because they know they won't have to defend themselves.

Here you want a reason why Shaq > Duncan?

He has scored 25+ on 50% shooting 10 times, while Duncan has only done it once.

[ILLsmak]

Here you want a reason why Shaq > Duncan?

He has scored 25+ on 50% shooting 10 times, while Duncan has only done it once.

lol yeah a statement like Shaq > Duncan shouldn't need an explanation.

-Smak

[sh0wtime]

I think Wade could do it aswell, maybe this season.

[sh0wtime]

LeBron was the best scorer in the league to me last season so yes (in a setting where he is very ball dominant though). Durant drops the most effortless 30 I might have ever seen though. Guy will have what seems like a horrific game but still end up with 30 somehow.

I thought that to until i figured out why... and that is ridicilous amount of freethrows with about 90% accuracy, its a nasty combination and he knows perfectly how to take advantage of it, he can probably average up to 15 ppg with 0 FG attempts.

[creepingdeath]

Dirk has a very good shot this year, his shooting form looked great so far.

[ShaqAttack3234]

It's amazing how common 25+ on 50+% shooting was in the 80's.

George Gervin- 2 times('80, '82)
Adrian Dantley- 7 times('80-'86)
Julius Erving- 1 time('80)
Moses Malone- 3 times('80-'82)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- 1 time('81)
David Thompson- 1 time('81)
Alex English- 6 times('82-'87)
Kiki Vandeweghe- 3 times('83, '84, '87)
Mark Aguirre- 2 times('84, '85)
Bernard Kings- 2 times('84, '85)
Larry Bird- 3 times('85, '87, '88)
Michael Jordan- 3 times('85, '88, '89)
Kevin McHale- 1 time('87)
Dale Ellis- 2 times('88, '89)
Charles Barkley- 2 times('88, '89)
Karl Malone- 2 times('88, '89)
Clyde Drexler- 1 time('88)
Chris Mullin- 1 time('89)

It's amazing how many perimeter players did it. Of course, te combination of a faster pace(and weaker defense as a result) as well as less 3s and more perimeter players posting up and shooting mid-range jumpers is why.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

It's amazing how common 25+ on 50+% shooting was in the 80's.

George Gervin- 2 times('80, '82)
Adrian Dantley- 7 times('80-'86)
Julius Erving- 1 time('80)
Moses Malone- 3 times('80-'82)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- 1 time('81)
David Thompson- 1 time('81)
Alex English- 6 times('82-'87)
Kiki Vandeweghe- 3 times('83, '84, '87)
Mark Aguirre- 2 times('84, '85)
Bernard Kings- 2 times('84, '85)
Larry Bird- 3 times('85, '87, '88)
Michael Jordan- 3 times('85, '88, '89)
Kevin McHale- 1 time('87)
Dale Ellis- 2 times('88, '89)
Charles Barkley- 2 times('88, '89)
Karl Malone- 2 times('88, '89)
Clyde Drexler- 1 time('88)
Chris Mullin- 1 time('89)

It's amazing how many perimeter players did it. Of course, te combination of a faster pace(and weaker defense as a result) as well as less 3s and more perimeter players posting up and shooting mid-range jumpers is why.

Yeah i think that was the reason why.

[chazzy]

It's amazing how common 25+ on 50+% shooting was in the 80's.

George Gervin- 2 times('80, '82)
Adrian Dantley- 7 times('80-'86)
Julius Erving- 1 time('80)
Moses Malone- 3 times('80-'82)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- 1 time('81)
David Thompson- 1 time('81)
Alex English- 6 times('82-'87)
Kiki Vandeweghe- 3 times('83, '84, '87)
Mark Aguirre- 2 times('84, '85)
Bernard Kings- 2 times('84, '85)
Larry Bird- 3 times('85, '87, '88)
Michael Jordan- 3 times('85, '88, '89)
Kevin McHale- 1 time('87)
Dale Ellis- 2 times('88, '89)
Charles Barkley- 2 times('88, '89)
Karl Malone- 2 times('88, '89)
Clyde Drexler- 1 time('88)
Chris Mullin- 1 time('89)

It's amazing how many perimeter players did it. Of course, te combination of a faster pace(and weaker defense as a result) as well as less 3s and more perimeter players posting up and shooting mid-range jumpers is why.

Yeah it's impressive, especially from lesser known players you wouldn't expect to accomplish this. Do you know if the TS%s were similar to current TS%? And if FTA were higher/lower? Because with more possessions, there's more chances to go to the line, but there weren't nearly as many ticky tack fouls called as there are now.

[Micku]

It's amazing how common 25+ on 50+% shooting was in the 80's.

George Gervin- 2 times('80, '82)
Adrian Dantley- 7 times('80-'86)
Julius Erving- 1 time('80)
Moses Malone- 3 times('80-'82)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- 1 time('81)
David Thompson- 1 time('81)
Alex English- 6 times('82-'87)
Kiki Vandeweghe- 3 times('83, '84, '87)
Mark Aguirre- 2 times('84, '85)
Bernard Kings- 2 times('84, '85)
Larry Bird- 3 times('85, '87, '88)
Michael Jordan- 3 times('85, '88, '89)
Kevin McHale- 1 time('87)
Dale Ellis- 2 times('88, '89)
Charles Barkley- 2 times('88, '89)
Karl Malone- 2 times('88, '89)
Clyde Drexler- 1 time('88)
Chris Mullin- 1 time('89)
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Most efficient player eva lol.



But yeah, 2010s need more big guys and better shot selection. We're getting there though! We have epic guards we may get some promising big guys later.

[Samvt]

Wade. 26 ppg / 4 ast/ 6 rpg/ 51% 2stl. 1.5 blk.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Amare is currently at 26.2 ppg on 50.7%. And Wade is close at 25.2 ppg on 49.7%. I think that both of them will do it. Lebron isn't that far off either at 26.2 ppg on 48.5%. He's shooting 56% in February and since December started, he's shooting over 50%.

But Amare may be the most underrated scorer in the league. When you hear people list the best scorers in the league, he's rarely mentioned and I don't know why. He's a matchup nightmare for other big men. He can outrun most of them, he'll hit jumpers consistently if you back off him, or he'll put the ball on the floor if you get too close which is why he gets to the line a lot, and he's a very good free throw shooter for his position.

[Irish]

Blake Griffin is scoring around 23 ppg on 51%. One to look out for in the following seasons.