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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Batz
    I will do the math as soon as my thumb stops swelling.
    okey dokey.

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    Great research Rose esp for those Kobe worshippers.
    I am a Laker fan and. I don't like it when Kobe takes a ton of shots but I take the good with the bad. At times Kobe would have to take those shots to save his team.
    The data puts some more perspective that we should not not just focus on LIMITED facts but the totality.
    I want to know though, If you can put also the negative stats when ESPN was putting Lebron James on their pedestal in his rookie year.
    ESPN, almost every week would state James as youngest guy to score, rebounded, assisted etc etc. Heck they never put, youngest player to brick this many shots, or to commit this many turnovers.
    My point is, James also played extensively in his rookie year UNLIKE Bryant and yet they NEVER focussed on his NEGATIVE stats.

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    Hahah I can't rep you because I have to spread the love around first, but I know you are going to get negged a million times for this, great thread tho.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Batz
    You factor in seasons it's pretty irrelevant too.
    exactly... he's in his 15th season age has nothing to do with it per se... not many folks will have racked up 18 seasons? assuming he stays that long when it's all said and done he'll lead or be at the top of some categories because he was good some for other reasons and some strictly because he played so long
    Last edited by gts; 12-07-2010 at 07:57 PM.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by tamaraw08
    Great research Rose esp for those Kobe worshippers.
    I am a Laker fan and. I don't like it when Kobe takes a ton of shots but I take the good with the bad. At times Kobe would have to take those shots to save his team.
    The data puts some more perspective that we should not not just focus on LIMITED facts but the totality.
    I want to know though, If you can put also the negative stats when ESPN was putting Lebron James on their pedestal in his rookie year.
    ESPN, almost every week would state James as youngest guy to score, rebounded, assisted etc etc. Heck they never put, youngest player to brick this many shots, or to commit this many turnovers.
    My point is, James also played extensively in his rookie year UNLIKE Bryant and yet they NEVER focussed on his NEGATIVE stats.
    Why thank you my friend.

    I also thought of the Prince as well, but I was like...save that for another day.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by gts
    exactly... he's in his 15th season age has nothing to do with it per se... not many folks that will have racked up 18 seasons? assuming he stay that long when it's all said and done he'll lead or be at the top of some categories because he was good some for other reasons and some strictly because he played so long
    SO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

    We're gonna focus on the fact he was the youngest to score so many points? but not bricks? you can't have it both ways.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Why thank you my friend.

    I also thought of the Prince as well, but I was like...save that for another day.
    Let it get to like page 8 first.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    SO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

    We're gonna focus on the fact he was the youngest to score so many points? but not bricks? you can't have it both ways.
    We're not ESPN. Well, not most of us. We don't vary by age in this modern day. We go by seasons and minutes played and then there's several other stats that you factor in aswell.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Batz
    We're not ESPN. Well, not most of us. We don't vary by age in this modern day. We go by seasons and minutes played and then there's several other stats that you factor in aswell.
    Regardless, if you take the shot you take the shot. We can all agree Wilt, MJ, West, Malone, Kareem they all played around 20 seasons. Which is what Kobe will play. The point is, he doesn't shoot as well as those guys did.

    I look at it this way Favre has the most TDs and picks mostly because he played so long.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Batz
    We're not ESPN. Well, not most of us. We don't vary by age in this modern day. We go by seasons and minutes played and then there's several other stats that you factor in aswell.

    I would rep you but, I was attacked by racists in the off thread forum =p.

    Kobe's been in the NBA for a long time of course he is going to have alot of missed shots because he has been the primary offense for his team for so many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Here's the brick leaders

    Career missed shots:

    John Havlicek 13,417 shots
    Elvin Hayes 13,296 shots
    Karl Malone 12,682 shots
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    12,470 shots
    Michael Jordan 12,345 shots
    Dominique Wilkins 11,626 shots
    Elgin Baylor 11,478 shots
    Allen Iverson 11,418 shots
    Wilt Chamberlain 10,816 shots
    Kobe Bryant 10,501 shots
    Alex English 10,377 shots
    Hal Greer 10,307 shots
    Bob Cousy 10,300 shots
    Hakeem Olajuwon 10,242 shots
    Oscar Robertson 10,112 shots
    Jerry West 10,016 shots


    This is an interesting list.....How does that one saying go? You miss all of the shots you dont take?

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    Kobe's been in the NBA for a long time of course he is going to have alot of missed shots because he has been the primary offense for his team for so many years.
    Like what 7 years?

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Like what 7 years?

    how about when he started averaging 15 FGA a game

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Like what 7 years?
    Oh man you seriously do not even care one bit, do you....lol

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    looks like kobe's in pretty good company there with wilt chamberlain, elgin baylor, michael jordan, dominique wilkins and kareem. way to go, kobe. anytime your name is mentioned with those guys you know you're doing something right.

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