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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Regardless, if you take the shot you take the shot. We can all agree Wilt, MJ, West, Malone, Kareem they all played around 20 seasons. Which is what Kobe will play. The point is, he doesn't shoot as well as those guys did.

    I look at it this way Favre has the most TDs and picks mostly because he played so long.
    LOL you're comparing kobe to the greatest guard of all time and a bunch of centers that scored all of their points five feet from the basket. No shit they were more efficient!

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    how about when he started averaging 15 FGA a game
    Well there's a difference between main option Kobe(post-Shaq) and chucking 15 or more shots, because he wanted to be the main option. so 15 FGA is a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    LOL you're comparing kobe to the greatest guard of all time and a bunch of centers that scored all of their points five feet from the basket. No shit they were more efficient!
    Fine add in Havlicek and ALL THE OTHERS Baylor, West etc etc

    Fact remains he's gonna have the most bricks. y u ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruh-Roh
    Oh man you seriously do not even care one bit, do you....lol
    Hell no! I do this shit right.

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    Very good thread. Kobe "Bricklayer" Bryant sounds better than that retarded Mamba gag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Well there's a difference between main option Kobe(post-Shaq) and chucking 15 or more shots, because he wanted to be the main option. so 15 FGA is a bad idea.


    I never said main option...


    I said apart of the primary offense.


    You need to stop hatin

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    I never said main option...

    I said apart of the primary offense.
    You need to stop hatin
    Ohhh fine show me a site that has when he started taking over 15 a game.

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    Kobe's FGA in wins and losses since he became a starter.

    1999
    wins- 15 FGA, 49.4 FG%
    losses- 16.6 FGA, 42.2 FG%

    2000
    wins- 17.6 FGA, 48.1 FG%
    losses- 19.6 FGA, 41.2 FG%

    2001
    wins- 21.9 FGA, 48.6 FG%
    losses- 22.9 FGA, 42.4 FG%

    2002
    wins- 19 FGA, 49.5 FG%
    losses- 22.2 FGA, 41.7 FG%

    2003
    wins- 23.3 FGA, 48 FG%
    losses- 23.8 FGA, 40.7 FG%

    2004
    wins- 17.7 FGA, 46.2 FG%
    losses- 19.4 FGA, 37.6 FG%

    2005
    wins- 19.6 FGA, 47 FG%
    losses- 20.4 FGA, 40.6 FG%

    2006
    wins- 26.8 FGA, 47.6 FG%
    losses- 27.6 FGA, 41.8 FG%

    2007
    wins- 22.3 FGA, 50.3 FG%
    losses- 23.3 FGA, 42.3 FG%

    2008
    wins- 19.3 FGA, 48 FG%
    losses- 23.6 FGA, 41.8 FG%

    2009
    wins- 19.5 FGA, 47.9 FG%
    losses-26.1 FGA, 43.3 FG%

    2010
    wins- 20.6 FGA, 47.5 FG%
    losses- 23.6 FGA, 41.9 FG%

    2011 (19 games into the season, which is when the stats were compiled)
    wins- 18.8 FGA, 43.3 FG%
    losses- 25.8 FGA, 41.9 FG%

    You wrote it yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    You wrote it yourself
    Meaning that...for 11 seasons he's been doing this.

    Now calculate how many misses everyone else had through 11, once they started taking 15 fga

    And then we can have a good conversation.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Anyone else got something good to add to this conversation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Regardless, if you take the shot you take the shot. We can all agree Wilt, MJ, West, Malone, Kareem they all played around 20 seasons. Which is what Kobe will play. The point is, he doesn't shoot as well as those guys did.

    I look at it this way Favre has the most TDs and picks mostly because he played so long.
    Kobe Bryant has played 14 seasons

    Not Around 20
    MJ played 15 seasons
    West Played 14 seasons?
    Wilt Chamberlain 14 seasons


    Around 20
    Malone 19 seasons
    Kareem 20 seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    Kobe Bryant has played 14 seasons

    Not Around 20
    MJ played 15 seasons
    West Played 14 seasons?
    Wilt Chamberlain 14 seasons


    Around 20
    Malone 19 seasons
    Kareem 20 seasons.
    Was Kobe taking 15 fga his first three years? NO he seldom made it off the bench his first year, his second year, he was a good role player and then he became more involved.

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Here's the brick leaders

    Career missed shots:

    John Havlicek 13,417 shots
    Elvin Hayes 13,296 shots
    Karl Malone 12,682 shots
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    12,470 shots
    Michael Jordan 12,345 shots
    Dominique Wilkins 11,626 shots
    Elgin Baylor 11,478 shots
    Allen Iverson 11,418 shots
    Wilt Chamberlain 10,816 shots
    Kobe Bryant 10,501 shots
    Alex English 10,377 shots
    Hal Greer 10,307 shots
    Bob Cousy 10,300 shots
    Hakeem Olajuwon 10,242 shots
    Oscar Robertson 10,112 shots
    Jerry West 10,016 shots
    Yes...Kobe should be ashamed to be a part of that list....ISHiot

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose
    Was Kobe taking 15 fga his first three years? NO he seldom made it off the bench his first year, his second year, he was a good role player and then he became more involved.


    Actually he started averaging around 15 his second year

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    Default Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    MJ missed 12345 FG in 15 years.

    Kobe only missed less than 10997 in 14 years.

    MJ will have missed more field goals in the 15 year sample than kobe (because kobe won't reach MJ's total by the end of this year).

    So technically MJ is the king of missed FGs since he has the most in the shortest time frame.

    So all this really shows is how irrelevant and misleading that is since everyone still considers jordan the goat.

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