Heat waive Carlos Arroyo and will sign Mike Bibby

[Lebron23]

He's shooting 44.1% from the the 3 points territory.

[opps]

It seems to me that Bibby's "clutchness" is going to amount to a hill of beans, as a team of guys like Wade/LeBron/Bosh, etc will be looking to take the big time shots.

Plus, he won't be handling the ball much, and offers nothing defensively.

What is the point of this move?

To let Heat fans think they finally added that one addition they needed.

[donald_trump]

He's shooting 44.1% from the the 3 points territory.

hes only going to be more wide open here. though i really dont think hes that much better if it all compared to arroyo and chalmers. if hes not better, hopefully hes a better fit.

[Peteballa]

I'd love to take Bibby just to piss Miami off. But we did that already with Murphy so I can live with Bibby going there, especially as Rondo would destroy him.

Lol, remember that other time all of the Celtic fans said that Rondo was going to destroy the opponent PG who was terrible at defense and slow as hell?

[ProfessorMurder]

Lol, remember that other time all of the Celtic fans said that Rondo was going to destroy the opponent PG who was terrible at defense and slow as hell?

Fisher guarded Ray... Nice try.

[Bigsmoke]

saying dude isnt an upgrade from ****ing Carlos Arroyo is wrong. I bet if its from another team people wouldnt day that.

I swear, i bet if the Heat traded Erick Dampier for Dwight Howard people would still find ways to think they didnt upgrade from that.

[Heat007]

He's shooting 44.1% from the the 3 points territory.

50% in November




38% in December




34% in February




% in March ?

[BallsOut]

If he can shoot 40 percent from three than he is already much better than any other pg they have.. Plus he can set up their offense.. Only Arroyo could do that.. Chalmers is also too turnover prone for a pg...

What offense? You mean pass it to Lebron iso up top?

[JerrySteakhouse]

I couldn't be any more happy! Carlos Arroyo is a scrub, didn't want him on the roster. Bibby isn't a big lift for us but he is definitely a huge upgrade. His veteran leadership is also a huge plus.

[Peteballa]

Fisher guarded Ray... Nice try.

So then what leads Celtics fans to believe that Bibby will guard Rondo and not Ray?

[sh0wtime]

actually no, you're wrong. as a whole since coming back from injury in the 08-09 season lebron has been far more turnover prone than wade. stop making up bs and protecting your boy even when you dont have anything to back it up.

lebron is more turnover prone than wade. fact.

Oh really?

Hm? First of all i deeply appologise but im a basketball fan first and foremost, i like both of them and neither one of them is in your terms "my boy" and since facts always expose opinions (such as yours) i hence stick to only facts and not mindbogling opinions! Since you want facts in this department of yours, here you go, i present you everything:

SEASON:

Wades TO average as of 2008-09 - 3.3
Lebrons TO average as of 2008-09 - 3.3

Wades Assist/TO ratio as of 2008-09 - 1.9
Lebrons Assist/TO ratio as of 2008-09 - 2.3

Wades Assist/TO ratio this season - 1.4
Lebrons Assist/TO ratio this season - 2.0

Wade career season TO - 3.7
Lebron career season TO - 3.3

Wade career season Assist/TO ratio - 1.7
Lebron career season Assist/TO ratio - 2.1

Wades best Assist/TO ratio season - 2.2 (2008-09)
Lebrons best Assist/TO ratio season - 2.5 (2009-10)

PLAYOFFS

Wades TO playoff average as of 2008-09 - 4.3
Lebrons TO playoff average as of 2008-09 - 3.2

Wades Assist/TO playoff ratio as of 2008-09 - 1.4
Lebrons Assist/TO playoff ratio as of 2008-09 - 2.3

Wade career playoff TO - 4.2
Lebron career playoff TO - 3.7

Wade career playoff Assist/TO ratio - 1.4
Lebron career playoff Assist/TO ratio - 2.0

Wades best Assist/TO ratio playoff year - 1.5 (2005-06)
Lebrons best Assist/TO ratio playoff year - 2.7 (2008-09)


As you can see its not even close, its very safe to say that anybody who thinks James has been more or even equally turnover prone as Dwyane Wade is kindof delusional or simply doesnt know what he talks about. Not even this year has Lebron been more turnover prone despite averaging more turnovers than Wade, simply because Lebron handles the ball and facilitates much more than Wade and averages 7.2 assists a game compared to Wades 4.4 assists a game and 3.2 turnovers a game (which is Wades worst assist/TO ratio of his career despite not having the pressure of having to facilitate/handle the ball as much as Lebron or not even close to as much as Wade ever facilitated/handled the ball before)

[04mzwach]

Miami cut Arroyo possibly to pick up Bibby

Boston fans would you pick Arroyo up as the 3rd string PG and just to get in the Heatles heads?

Hell no, we can get more hot cheerleaders with that money.

[sh0wtime]

It seems to me that Bibby's "clutchness" is going to amount to a hill of beans, as a team of guys like Wade/LeBron/Bosh, etc will be looking to take the big time shots.

Plus, he won't be handling the ball much, and offers nothing defensively.

What is the point of this move?

For Miami Lebron has been most often having the ball in his hands in those situations whether it was to make an assist/pass to a player which Spoelstra designed or Lebron himself created or to make a basket himself, considering this then i wouldnt worry about Bibby not being used in the clutch as Lebron with the ball in his hands especially has always been known to make the right play and never turn down the open jumpshooter, heck stupidly enough he has even been criticized for being to unselfish in those situations despite any of those plays being always the right plays.

[sh0wtime]

He's shooting 44.1% from the the 3 points territory.

Around James & Wade Mike Bibby will shoot even better, open shots afterall.
This sure was the case with any shooter Lebron at least played with, all shooters that played with Lebron improved their 3PT% compared to their previous or even any of their other seasons and all of their 3PT% also decreased when Lebron didnt play with them.

[rigor]

They can't match up with Chicago either, who owns them by the way like every ELITE team owns the Heat.

The Heat have NOTHING to match up with Joakim Noah, Omer Asik, Taj Gibson, Kurt Thomas, and Carlos Boozer. Nothing!

So the Lakers are no longer elite ? Think I saw Kobe being force fed Wade & LBJ's eggnog last Xmas.