Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe

[Hulk Hogan]

I'm sure you guys have seen the stat of this year's Miami Heat: In the last 10 seconds of the 4th or overtime, with the Heat tied or down 1-3pts (one FG), the Heat are shooting 1-18 this season...

We've seen some numbers and blah blah come out showing how Kobe isn't that clutch, or whatever with clutch being defined in various ways (last 5 minutes, last 2 minutes, each team up or down 5... etc).

I like the 10 second clutch stat (FGM-FGA in the last 10 seconds of the 4th or OT, with the player's team tied or down 1-3) as a different look on things than we've had in the past because:
A. That means it's basically last second shot time
B. It's when your team is tied or down one shot.. which is much different and feels different than you getting a FGA with your team up 3. In this definition, if you miss, you lose or go into OT for sure basically.

I took it upon myself to go through ESPN play-by-plays of Lebron and Kobe (for obvious reasons) to see what the stats show under this definition of clutch. Since I started doing this at 4am, I only got a few seasons done, but I'll post anyways and hope to continue my research tomorrow.

So here you have it, Lebron and Kobe's "Last 10sec" Clutch stats for 08-09 (Lebron's first MVP) til present.

Lebron James
08-09: 1-4 (25%)
09-10: 1-8 (12.5%)
10-11: 1-8 (12.5%)
Total (through last 3 seasons): 3-20 (15%)

Kobe Bryant
08-09: 2-6 (33.3%)
09-10: 7-11 (63.6%)
10-11: 1-3 (33.3%)
Total (through last 3 seasons): 10-20 (50%)

Funny enough, they have the same exact amount of attempts. Not the same amount of makes though.

[olddangerfield]

Kobe was a beast last year.. he had like 6 game winners.. and they were true game winners too with under 5 if not 2 seconds remaining.

[Rnbizzle]

Yes so Kobe is more clutch.. we've seen topics like this one before.. proving the same point. Get over it.

[chazzy]

Inb4 Hulk vs Ginobli Round 32

[wally_world]

I'll take a blindfolded Kobe over LeBron in the final 10sec of a close game

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

I thought you don't like these stats. Why the sudden change of mind now that they aide you in your agenda?

[Hulk Hogan]

Inb4 Hulk vs Ginobli Round 32

As long as I keep owning him... I don't mind.

[G-Funk]

You should email ur reaseach to a sports writer thats not from bspn cause i doubt they would wanna expose lebron... Who knows maybe bucher or adande would...those r the only 2 writers that i see doing some more research like this to prop kobe..i know the others wont

[Hulk Hogan]

I thought you don't like these stats. Why the sudden change of mind now that they aide you in your agenda?

But why do you disregard stats now? Because they destroy your on-going agenda?

Yep...that's right.

Stats are everything until they don't support your objectives..

[catch24]

Thought it was common knowledge Kobe was the go-to-guy if you wanted a last second shot?

[olddangerfield]

But why do you disregard stats now? Because they destroy your on-going agenda?

Yep...that's right.

Stats are everything until they don't support your objectives..

Stats aren't meaningless, but their not this end all number as well. You have to judge from both watching the game and from the boxscore what actually happened on the basketball court. 30 years ago they didn't even have blocks and steals, and a lot of analysts at the time missed key stats that they could have used to interpret the game.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

But why do you disregard stats now? Because they destroy your on-going agenda?

Yep...that's right.

Stats are everything until they don't support your objectives..

Do you just make shit up as you go along?

[Hulk Hogan]

Thought it was common knowledge Kobe was the go-to-guy if you wanted a last second shot?

Look back when the kobe articles were first released. Look at the threads and see what the actually contests were.

[Hulk Hogan]

Do you just make shit up as you go along?

No, you just mad because the stats are not in your favor this time.
Imagine if Kobe was the one shooting 15% and Lebron was the one shooting 50%.. Lebron's nutgaggers would run with it, the thread would reach 100pages in 24 hours...

It would make the ESPN articles! But since it doesn't help you & their agenda, it must be disregarded, destroyed..

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

No, you just mad because the stats are not in your favor this time.
Imagine if Kobe was the one shooting 15% and Lebron was the one shooting 50%.. Lebron's nutgaggers would run with it, the thread would reach 100pages in 24 hours...

It would make the ESPN articles! But since it doesn't help you & their agenda, it must be disregarded, destroyed..

I never disregarded the stats. And I don't do now. Why do you have to make shit up? You're extremely insecure. And why would I be mad about anything??? I don't even like Lebron.