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03-23-2011, 09:50 PM
#151
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
I'm sure you guys have seen the stat of this year's Miami Heat: In the last 10 seconds of the 4th or overtime, with the Heat tied or down 1-3pts (one FG), the Heat are shooting 1-18 this season...
We've seen some numbers and blah blah come out showing how Kobe isn't that clutch, or whatever with clutch being defined in various ways (last 5 minutes, last 2 minutes, each team up or down 5... etc).
I like the 10 second clutch stat (FGM-FGA in the last 10 seconds of the 4th or OT, with the player's team tied or down 1-3) as a different look on things than we've had in the past because:
A. That means it's basically last second shot time
B. It's when your team is tied or down one shot.. which is much different and feels different than you getting a FGA with your team up 3. In this definition, if you miss, you lose or go into OT for sure basically.
I took it upon myself to go through ESPN play-by-plays of Lebron and Kobe (for obvious reasons) to see what the stats show under this definition of clutch. Since I started doing this at 4am, I only got a few seasons done, but I'll post anyways and hope to continue my research tomorrow.
So here you have it, Lebron and Kobe's "Last 10sec" Clutch stats for 08-09 (Lebron's first MVP) til present.
Lebron James
08-09: 1-4 (25%)
09-10: 1-8 (12.5%)
10-11: 1-8 (12.5%)
Total (through last 3 seasons): 3-20 (15%)
Kobe Bryant
08-09: 2-6 (33.3%)
09-10: 7-11 (63.6%)
10-11: 1-3 (33.3%)
Total (through last 3 seasons): 10-20 (50%)
Funny enough, they have the same exact amount of attempts. Not the same amount of makes though.
No point in debating this. We already seen what LeBron can do this season. Either shoot a brick, or pass the ball to Wade to close out the game.
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03-23-2011, 10:36 PM
#152
Palm Trees & Gangsters
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Lebron aint clutch, face it ppl!
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03-23-2011, 10:42 PM
#153
Free Kosovo
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
never mention LeLowIQ in the same breath as Kobe
pleaseeee
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03-23-2011, 11:29 PM
#154
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
I'm sure you guys have seen the stat of this year's Miami Heat: In the last 10 seconds of the 4th or overtime, with the Heat tied or down 1-3pts (one FG), the Heat are shooting 1-18 this season...
We've seen some numbers and blah blah come out showing how Kobe isn't that clutch, or whatever with clutch being defined in various ways (last 5 minutes, last 2 minutes, each team up or down 5... etc).
I like the 10 second clutch stat (FGM-FGA in the last 10 seconds of the 4th or OT, with the player's team tied or down 1-3) as a different look on things than we've had in the past because:
A. That means it's basically last second shot time
B. It's when your team is tied or down one shot.. which is much different and feels different than you getting a FGA with your team up 3. In this definition, if you miss, you lose or go into OT for sure basically.
I took it upon myself to go through ESPN play-by-plays of Lebron and Kobe (for obvious reasons) to see what the stats show under this definition of clutch. Since I started doing this at 4am, I only got a few seasons done, but I'll post anyways and hope to continue my research tomorrow.
So here you have it, Lebron and Kobe's "Last 10sec" Clutch stats for 08-09 (Lebron's first MVP) til present.
Lebron James
08-09: 1-4 (25%)
09-10: 1-8 (12.5%)
10-11: 1-8 (12.5%)
Total (through last 3 seasons): 3-20 (15%)
Kobe Bryant
08-09: 2-6 (33.3%)
09-10: 7-11 (63.6%)
10-11: 1-3 (33.3%)
Total (through last 3 seasons): 10-20 (50%)
Funny enough, they have the same exact amount of attempts. Not the same amount of makes though.
those stats are wrong for kobe 2009-2010..Not sure about the other seasons.. For either kobe or bron..
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03-24-2011, 12:53 AM
#155
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
those stats are wrong for kobe 2009-2010..Not sure about the other seasons.. For either kobe or bron..
Right. Thanks for clearing that up. What are the "real" stats?
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03-24-2011, 02:16 AM
#156
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
those stats are wrong for kobe 2009-2010..Not sure about the other seasons.. For either kobe or bron..
Why don't you post the real facts then you butt-hurt cry-baby...
That is the right stats, you just don't like the results because it doesn't favor your previous assertions!
Infact ESPN showed this in the Miami vs. Thunder game at half-time. Lebron had 15% and Wade had like 10%...
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03-24-2011, 03:20 AM
#157
Schrempf Scampi
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
Why don't you post the real facts then you butt-hurt cry-baby...
That is the right stats, you just don't like the results because it doesn't favor your previous assertions!
Infact ESPN showed this in the Miami vs. Thunder game at half-time. Lebron had 15% and Wade had like 10%...
What do you have to say about Dirk in these situations? Just curious as the actual figures have been provided.
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03-24-2011, 03:22 AM
#158
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
Kobe wankers wanking?
Nothing new to see here
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04-13-2011, 01:51 PM
#159
Verticle?
Re: Last 10 seconds - Lebron vs Kobe
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