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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Who cares? Shaq was far more efficient than Kobe regardless, thus he had more impact. Kobe was and still is a volume scorer.
Please stop posting.
career TS%
shaq - 58.6%
kobe - 55.6%
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NBA Legend
Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by Colby Brian
career TS%
shaq - 58.6%
kobe - 55.6%
Shaq's % is still better despite not shooting 3's.
FG% is a better measure of efficiency; showing you how dominant both players were. It takes into account shot selection and how missed shots hurt the teams scoring, transition defense, etc.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Shaq's % is still better despite not shooting 3's.
FG% is a better measure of efficiency; showing you how dominant both players were. It takes into account shot selection and how missed shots hurt the teams scoring, transition defense, etc.
bro im not saying shaq wasnt dominant, hes top 5-10 all time
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
The Shaq-Kobe threepeat is the most misunderstood era in basketball history. The media and casual fan was so busy trying to decide who was better among the two that they forget the real story which is they did it without a credible 3rd HOF or even a 3rd all star.
The 3rd HOFer in that team is David Stern.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
The Shaq-Kobe threepeat is the most misunderstood era in basketball history. The media and casual fan was so busy trying to decide who was better among the two that they forget the real story which is they did it without a credible 3rd HOF or even a 3rd all star.
The most dominant playoff team of all time 3rd best player had a below league average PER and a defensive supporting cast that netted them the 21st best Defense in the league
This is pretty much the reality of what actually happened during those championships. Yes Shaq was definitively the "1st option" so to speak just because he was such a dominant force in the paint, a region of the court you have to win in order to have success in the playoffs.
It's like the line of scrimmage in football or the inside part of the plate in baseball. It's a place where most games, especially tight games, are decided. Centers are picked so high in the draft because they are able to dominant that portion of the court so well. With that said, if Shaq was their 1st option Kobe was the Lakers 2nd and 3rd options, because outside of those two they really didn't have anybody else, at least nobody that contributed consistently on a nightly basis like those two, and even more so in the playoffs.
The Lakers would start the game during that era by feeding Shaq in the post until about 3 minutes left into the 4th quarter and then Kobe would step in, either by creating for himself or others. That's not to say Shaq never scored in the 4th quarter or he never closed for the Lakers because he contributed on some nights as well but come 4th quarter time the Lakers would intentionally run stuff for Kobe, especially since Shaq was such a liability at the free throw line.
Say what you want about Kobe because he was still a huge reason why the Lakers did so well in 00-04 and he became such a big part of the team in 03 and 04 that somehow both Shaq and Kobe couldnt accept the fact that they only one of them could be the best player on that team. Jerry and Dr.Buss saw this coming and they obviously choose who they thought was at the time the best player of that team and who would continue to be for the next decade.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by olddangerfield
This is pretty much the reality of what actually happened during those championships. Yes Shaq was definitively the "1st option" so to speak just because he was such a dominant force in the paint, a region of the court you have to win in order to have success in the playoffs.
It's like the line of scrimmage in football or the inside part of the plate in baseball. It's a place where most games, especially tight games, are decided. Centers are picked so high in the draft because they are able to dominant that portion of the court so well. With that said, if Shaq was their 1st option Kobe was the Lakers 2nd and 3rd options, because outside of those two they really didn't have anybody else, at least nobody that contributed consistently on a nightly basis like those two, and even more so in the playoffs.
The Lakers would start the game during that era by feeding Shaq in the post until about 3 minutes left into the 4th quarter and then Kobe would step in, either by creating for himself or others. That's not to say Shaq never scored in the 4th quarter or he never closed for the Lakers because he contributed on some nights as well but come 4th quarter time the Lakers would intentionally run stuff for Kobe, especially since Shaq was such a liability at the free throw line.
Say what you want about Kobe because he was still a huge reason why the Lakers did so well in 00-04 and he became such a big part of the team in 03 and 04 that somehow both Shaq and Kobe couldnt accept the fact that they only one of them could be the best player on that team. Jerry and Dr.Buss saw this coming and they obviously choose who they thought was at the time the best player of that team and who would continue to be for the next decade.
Very accurate post especially the part about how outside of Kobe and Shaq the Lakers were very mediocre. You got some contributions from guys like Horry and Fox and Fisher every once in a while but those 3 peat teams were really a 2 headed monster in Kobe and Shaq. A lot of times commentators would even mention that as well. That it was like a two man team because Kobe and Shaq would combine for over half of the team's points most of the time.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by the_wise_one
The 3rd HOFer in that team is David Stern.
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Local High School Star
Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc2yQ...el_video_title
although i think this guy is a loud mouth fvcktard, he has a point
hence, sit
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Last edited by Colby Brian; 04-11-2011 at 08:40 PM.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by hkfosho
Can't be that great of a point if he has to moderate the youtube comments
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
so people come in with a different opinion and all the op can do is post u mad pictures... lol
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by donald_trump
so people come in with a different opinion and all the op can do is post u mad pictures... lol
only the stupid opinions like "kobes the most overrated", or "david stern gave lakers rings"
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Local High School Star
Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by Colby Brian
only the stupid opinions like "kobes the most overrated", or "david stern gave lakers rings"
what do you have to say about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCcPF...el_video_title
yeah, sit.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
Originally Posted by hkfosho
lol thats a kobe hater, its pretty obvoius, he hates kobe soo much
anyways read my post
by the way
2000 WCF game 7
kobe - 25/11/7
shaq - 18/9/5
a 21 yr old kobe more points, rebounds, and assists than a prime shaq in game 7
yeah, sit and read my first post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmhzDca63yg later changed it to 6th
Last edited by Colby Brian; 04-11-2011 at 08:57 PM.
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Re: You call this "carrying" another player?
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