congrats: Wade wins first playoff series since 2006 finals

[opps]

Don't argue with them on their terms. You're allowing them to the set the terms of the debate. Wade is the most efficient SG-- actually the most efficient guard period-- since the GOAT. They're coming from the perspective that scoring is practically the only thing that matters. As an all-around perfomer, Wade has no peers among SGs other than MJ (and perhaps Jerry West).

You already said Kobe is more talented and more skilled than Wade. Putting winning aside we are supposed to take Wade over Kobe because according to stats he's more efficient?! Oh......yeah....... I see

[tpols]

Don't argue with them on their terms. You're allowing them to the set the terms of the debate. Wade is the most efficient SG-- actually the most efficient guard period-- since the GOAT. They're coming from the perspective that scoring is practically the only thing that matters. As an all-around perfomer, Wade has no peers among SGs other than MJ (and perhaps Jerry West).

eFG has wade at 1% higher efficiency than kobe while scoring on a lower volume and not having even close to the list of dominant scoring performances.

[Colby Brian]

Don't argue with them on their terms. You're allowing them to the set the terms of the debate. Wade is the most efficient SG-- actually the most efficient guard period-- since the GOAT. They're coming from the perspective that scoring is practically the only thing that matters. As an all-around perfomer, Wade has no peers among SGs other than MJ (and perhaps Jerry West).

[Colby Brian]

MJ vs Kobe vs Wade

60 Point Gmaes
MJ - 5
Kobe - 5
Wade - 0

50 point games
MJ - 38
Kobe - 25
Wade - 3

40 Point Games
MJ - 173
Kobe - 118
Wade - 38

Titles
MJ - 6
Kobe - 5
Wade - 1

Even if you TRIPLE wades totals he doesnt have as much 60,50,40 point games and titles as Kobe

[Papaya Petee]

Lol at looking at scoring only Colby.

Lets ignore that Wade's playmaking is through the roof better then Kobes, has been a better defender, equal\better rebounder, superior shot blocker, etc. etc.

Scoring is the only part of basketball, never knew that!

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Lol at looking at scoring only Colby.

Lets ignore that Wade's playmaking is through the roof better then Kobes, has been a better defender, equal\better rebounder, superior shot blocker, etc. etc.

Scoring is the only part of basketball, never knew that!

[Colby Brian]

Lol at looking at scoring only Colby.

Lets ignore that Wade's playmaking is through the roof better then Kobes, has been a better defender, equal\better rebounder, superior shot blocker, etc. etc.

Scoring is the only part of basketball, never knew that!

way better playmaker? better defender throughout whole career?

wade is just a better blocker (defense isnt just blocking), and a little better passer thats it

kobes been on 8 all 1st defensive teams by the way

[LoveIsMyMessage]

MJ vs Kobe vs Wade

60 Point Gmaes
MJ - 5
Kobe - 5
Wade - 0

50 point games
MJ - 38
Kobe - 25
Wade - 3

40 Point Games
MJ - 173
Kobe - 118
Wade - 38

Titles
MJ - 6
Kobe - 5
Wade - 1

Even if you TRIPLE wades totals he doesnt have as much 60,50,40 point games and titles as Kobe

Too bad he averages less in every category except rebounding for his career. U could argue that he has more Titles but dont argue about playmaking. Its like saying Carmelo is as good a playmaker as LEbron.

[jrong]

multiply that and he still wont be close

Guess who's still mad because Beasley sucked in Miami (in a different way than he sucked in Minnesota, where he still sucked). What a waste of a draft pick.

[Colby Brian]

Too bad he averages less in every category except rebounding for his career. U could argue that he has more Titles but dont argue about playmaking. Its like saying Carmelo is as good a playmaker as LEbron.

Wade isnt on the same level as Kobe was FACT

[206kid]

I see people saying Wade has never won a series without a MVP or a HOF.... He won a playoff series his rookie year against the Hornets, without an HOF or MVP.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Guess who's still mad because Beasley sucked in Miami (in a different way than he sucked in Minnesota, where he still sucked). What a waste of a draft pick.

@ this guy getting mad and changing the topic

"Beasley should watch (Miami star) LeBron James(notes)," Artest said. "Beasley's actually a better shooter than LeBron, but the smarts are not there. He's talking so much trash instead of worrying about the game. He needs to become a winner." [...]

Artest said Beasley needs to learn another move on the court.

"He's so athletic and quick and strong," he said. "But eventually somebody's going to catch on to it.

"Offensively, I've been a big believer in him," Rivers said before his Celtics beat the Timberwolves 96-93 on Monday night. "I just think he can score. I said it two years ago: I think one day he may lead the league in scoring. He just knows how to score the ball. He has a Carmelo ability to score the ball."

Beasley scored 19 points, playing only 23 minutes because of foul trouble.

"He's a matchup problem every night," Rivers said. "He's tough for 3s [small forwards] to guard because of his size. He's too quick for 4s [power forwards]. And he can shoot. Obviously that's the key. He has quickness and a shot at that size. That makes him tough to guard."

“He’s a great talent,’’ Pierce said. “A lot of people really forgot about him. He’s having a sensational year, kind of under the radar. He came in as a highly touted offensive player. It’s really rare you see a guy with his size and strength to put the ball on the ground and shoot the way he does and get to the basket with his athleticism. He was a tough cover, especially in the midrange game.

Michael Beasley Stats before injuries issues
22PPG 6RPG 1APG 1BPG 1SPG 48FG% TS%55

Nice Try thou

[Poochymama]

What about it? Kobe is every bit the playmaker as wade. Don't bring up assist totals because wade basically ran point for most of his career in miami where his role was to run isos and PnRs and free lance create for himself and others. Kobe has always worked within an offensive system that emphasizes ball movement and the extra pass. Kobe actually is a more skilled passer in that he is more accurate and can pull off harder passes. He is a less willing passer but nonetheless is still right there with wade.

Wow, those are some serious homer goggles you have on. Wade is clearly a better passer/play-maker. Either you've really never watched Wade play, or you are just extremely biased. Me thinks the latter. And at Kobe playing within the system, he certainly plays more within the system than Wade, but overall?

And defensively prime kobe was a better defender on the ball and off the ball.

I agree with this, not really debatable imo.

The icing on the cake is that kobe has always been a much better player in the clutch due to his huge advantage in versatility and skillset over wade.

Can't disagree with this either.

Right now, Wade is the better player, but overall Kobe > Wade, and prime Kobe > prime Wade, but at them not being comparable, or even likening the comparison to MJ vs. Drexler.

Prime vs Prime, Kobe is the better scorer, better defender, and more clutch. Wade is the better passer/play-maker, efficient scorer.

[zabuza666]

Your right he has the ring and no one can take it away from him. But the same way he got his ring is one of the reason he hasnt been able to get one since. Having a game built on relying on the refs will not get you very far. Cant wait for the Celtics/Heat series to start we gonna see how good him and Lebron really are.

How is his game built on refs?