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06-24-2011, 03:45 AM
#211
Local High School Star
Re: Dirk Is Great, But Lets Take It Easy
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
You find me one current list with Mchale higher than Dirk. If you can, I'll debate it with you.
Until then, its like comparing Bird and Dr. J....one player was clearly better and it shouldn't be debated.
Thats what Dirk and Mchale are. Dirk is just easily a better player and has had a better career......
Who cares about 'current lists'. A list is just something a dude makes to fanboy his favourite players. Being on a bunch of lists doesn't actually make you better. Why not talk about people's game and play on the court since that's what's relevant, not what a bunch of jack off sports writers say. Honestly, I'm just sick of people claiming shit is a fact and then trying to back it up cuz a bunch of morons at ESPN like broussard and Bayless said so. I personally hate it when people say "my list". I don't have a list because they are ridiculous and pretentious. Sure, you can say one player is better then another sometimes, but in what world is there a legit reason Isiah Thomas > AI or vice versa.
Either way, presence on lists does not actually make players better or worse cuz while their ranks will change their play stays exactly the same.
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06-24-2011, 04:16 AM
#212
High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Dirk Is Great, But Lets Take It Easy
Weeeeee areee the championnnsssss. Noooooo timeeeee for lossserrrrs cause weeee areeeee the championsssss of the worlddddddddddd
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06-24-2011, 04:19 AM
#213
NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Dirk Is Great, But Lets Take It Easy
Oh! Dirk vs Mchale?
Well, Dirk is greater than Mchale and is the better first option. Mchale had a chance to take over with the Celts once Bird got injured, but Mchale was never able to be that guy. But it' also because Mchale wasn't the same player with injuries and age.
Dirk is more durable and a better 1st option. However, we don't know how would Mchale do as a 1st option. But Dirk is more accomplish than Mchale with MVP, and Finals MVP.
With that said, Mchale was a beast. Mchale owns the post and anything in the paint. Dirk has nothing on Mchale with the post moves and Mchale is a better defender than Dirk. Mchale offensive skill set could be better than Dirk because Mchale could take it inside or out. But Dirk is the better ball handler and spread the defense a lot more. Dirk is also the better passer and the better scorer. Mchale is more efficient.
But if you would to take Mchale and Dirk and have them go head to head, I'm guessing Dirk will have a harder time stopping Mchale than Mchale stopping Dirk even though they'll both get their numbers.
Mchale is more a specialist. He is strictly a PF, the post player. Mchale is probably the most unstoppable player in the post in NBA history. If Mchale didn't play with Bird, he may have scored more and become a 1st option player, but that never happened. And this is why Dirk is greater than Mchale now.
With that said, peak Mchale was awesome. He is up there with the top PFs. Proficient with both the offense and defense.
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In terms of Dirk legacy? His legacy have great upgrade since he won the championship. I'm not sure if he is better than Malone or Barkley still, but it's better to enjoy the Mavs and their victory. I would prefer to compare Dirk with the others when he retires, but I don't think there is a necessary "better" player. More like in tiers. Each great player will bring something different to the table.
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01-13-2013, 09:26 PM
#214
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Re: Dirk Is Great, But Lets Take It Easy
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