ESPN's entire panel agrees that Carmelo Anthony is NBA's most overrated

[28renyoy]

Da fck are you talking about? Carmelo is known for being best at hitting clutch shots with the clock winding down. Since when are those unimportant?

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Carmelo Anthony 13 27 .481

Kevin Durant 5 14 .357

LeBron James 17 50 .340

Kobe Bryant 14 56 .250

You're laughing at Durant when you're favorite player, LeBron, is even lower

[Sarcastic]

Apparently Melo's claim to fame is holding Durant to 27/7/3 on 57 TS% when Durant's career averages are 26/6/3 on 58 TS%

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You're laughing at Durant when you're favorite player, LeBron, is even lower

I hate LeBronze. Where you get that shit from? Cuz I acknowledge he is the best in the game?

[28renyoy]

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And? Do you think Dirk is a better player than LeBron/Wade? Whom he just beat head to head in the Finals?

I guess you would build a team around Dirk rather than both Wade/James.

Forget the other 78 games a year, the 4 they play head to head means everything. Forget sample size & variance

[28renyoy]

Deron Williams is 12-4 vs Chris Paul. He also torches Paul numbers wise, much more so than Anthony does to Durant.

I guess you would build around Williams if both were completely healthy?

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Deron Williams is 12-4 vs Chris Paul. He also torches Paul numbers wise, much more so than Anthony does to Durant.

I guess you would build around Williams if both were completely healthy?

I don't know who I would take in that one. That's pretty 6 on 1 hand, half a dozen on the other.

[Scoooter]

Most people consider Melo to be the second or third best SF in the league right now. How is that overrating him? He's obviously not better than LeBron, but no one really says he is. Saying he's better than Durant is hardly a stretch, but at worst he's only slightly below him. Who else should be considered a better SF? The only one that makes sense is Pierce. So, if you take that approach, at worst, considering Melo to be a top 3 SF is just one spot too high.

[28renyoy]

Most people consider Melo to be the second or third best SF in the league right now. How is that overrating him? He's obviously not better than LeBron, but no one really says he is. Saying he's better than Durant is hardly a stretch, but at worst he's only slightly below him. Who else should be considered a better SF? The only one that makes sense is Pierce. So, if you take that approach, at worst, considering Melo to be a top 3 SF is just one spot too high.

It's not only at the position. It's who is the most overrated player who happens to play SF.

Anthony is put in the top 5-7 players in the league by several, and in the same echelon as Durant. He is simply not that good. He is a volume scorer on average efficiency. A great rebounder for his opposition who is average-below average at everything else.

He gets overrated, like Iverson, due to his flashy play when the output doesn't match the hype. Just like how Mike Vick got overrated in Atlanta. He was very average in terms of QB's but everyone loved him because of his flashy play.

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It's not only at the position. It's who is the most overrated player who happens to play SF.

Anthony is put in the top 5-7 players in the league by several, and in the same echelon as Durant. He is simply not that good. He is a volume scorer on average efficiency. A great rebounder for his opposition who is average-below average at everything else.

He gets overrated, like Iverson, due to his flashy play when the output doesn't match the hype. Just like how Mike Vick got overrated in Atlanta. He was very average in terms of QB's but everyone loved him because of his flashy play.

What flashy play? He plays mostly a mid range game. Is that considered flashy these days?

[FourthTenor]

Da fck are you talking about? Carmelo is known for being best at hitting clutch shots with the clock winding down. Since when are those unimportant?

Umm, since "clutch" is a mystical fairytale used to create the ever-important "hero" in sports.

Kobe Bryant statistically is not clutch. Michael Jordan missed way more "clutch" shots than he made. Robert Horry hit a ton of clutch shots. Did he have a clutch gene? No. The coin just landed on the good side more often than not. Sometimes you get heads 5 times in a row. That's not clutch coin flipping. It's random chance. Is Derek Fisher born with clutch in his veins? No. He is the beneficiary of his shot happening to fall at fortuitous moments.

Carmelo is still a 46% shooter. People are desperate to turn team sports into "star capades" where the one hero leads the pack to glory on a white horse with a fair maiden behind him. People love the fairytale stuff, it sells well in the media, and so "clutch" is born.


In football, a sport where guys get hurt ALL THE TIME, if a guy gets hurt two years in a row he's labeled more fragile and injury prone than a guy who didnt, the thought is never even given to the fact that it could just be chance that one guy flipped heads twice and the other flipped tails twice. Believe it or not, random things do happen in this world. Everything doesnt have a great mythical explaination, including inexplicable "clutchness"

[knickswin]

is joyner going for the record for posting the most Carmelo-vs-Durant threads?

[NewYorkNoPicks]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...rwards-ratings



Durant is also the most promising SF in the league despite already being a top 5 player with an unlimited ceiling.

Too bad every single person whose opinions were considered in the article were all from blog sites.....pathetic.

And you guys can hate all you want because the fact of the matter is that all of NY is happy to have Melo, and 9 times out of 10 hes better than your favorite teams best player

[28renyoy]

Too bad every single person whose opinions were considered in the article were all from blog sites.....pathetic.

And you guys can hate all you want because the fact of the matter is that all of NY is happy to have Melo, and 9 times out of 10 hes better than your favorite teams best player

Dwight-nope
Dirk-nope
LeBron/Wade-nope
Durant-nope
Rose-nope
Kobe-nope
CP3-nope
Deron Williams-nope


Hell he might not even be better than Amare or Nash

[ballerz]

lol at it not everyone agreeing that larry legend is the best SF ever.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Dwight-nope
Dirk-nope
LeBron/Wade-nope
Durant-nope
Rose-nope
Kobe-nope
CP3-nope
Deron Williams-nope


Hell he might not even be better than Amare or Nash

If you think Melo isnt better than Amare then its clear you have an agenda and/or do not watch the nba that often. And yes Melo is better than Dirk a statement most would hav agreed with prior to the Mavs winning the title.

So excluding Dirk you named 6 players, 2 of which are on the same team so that leaves 25 teams out of 30 who dont have a star player as talented as Melo...which pretty much satisfies my 9 out of 10 probability regarding him.


Either way you still proved my argument