Does Blake Griffin have Potential to be GOAT?

[Clippersfan86]

Mailman wasn't the number one pick, he was 14th.

Doesn't matter. He was insanely talented and became the GOAT PF pre Duncan arguably. You having the advantage of hindsight makes it no less impressive.

[Smoke117]

I don't count 40 years ago. Hell players from 30 years ago are vastly over rated to, and that is considered the modern NBA. Wilt was a monster because he was bigger, faster and stronger than everyone else he was playing with. People are saying that BG is just an athlete, well so is Wilt.

Either way you are still wrong. Just Drob and Shaq alone were far more dominant rookies.

[OKCThunderUP]

Being the GOAT requires playing elite level defense. Griffin doesn't even play defense.

[EnoughSaid]

All the good PF's are getting old. Dirk is old. Amare is up there. Bosh is like 27. KG can barely walk. This is how I see the best players at each position a few years from now:

Rose
EG
Durant
Blake
Howard

[rmt]

Rookies Season pts/reb/blocks

Duncan: 19/11/2.5 per 39.1 minutes
Barkley: 14/8.6/1 per 28.1 minutes
Malone: 14.9/8.9/0.5 per 30.6 minutes
Garnet: 10.4/6.3/1.6 per 28 minutes


Griffin: 22.5/12/0.5 per 38 minutes

So he has no potential at GOAT all huh?

Incorrect stats for Duncan.

Duncan 21.1/11.9/2.5 54.9% FG (with much better defense)
BGriffin 22.5/12.1/0.5 50.6% FG

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...duncati01.html

[D-Wade316]

All the good PF's are getting old. Dirk is old. Amare is up there. Bosh is like 27. KG can barely walk. This is how I see the best players at each position a few years from now:

Rose
EG
Durant
Blake
Howard

Can't see Rose becoming better than CP3. By his 3rd year, CP3 posted a PER of 30
EG will never be better than Wade, just like how no one replaced MJ at the top spot despite his age.
Durant over Lebron in a few years? LOL
Agree
He already is.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I don't think he'll be able to reach G.O.A.T. PF simply because I don't see him ever having the impact on the defensive end that Timmy has had.

But I do think he'll eventually be considered one of the greats.

[Celtics4ever]

Does he have potential? Yes, I think any player has potential when they're in their second year. Will he? No, I need to see a lot more to his game.

I dont think anyone currently can be as good as MJ.

Out of all the current players, I think Rose has the greatest shot to be GOAT. He is in a big city, with good players and system surrounding him, he is a SG away from piling up championships, not to mention his hard work ethic and killer instinct. The only thing he lacks is size.

I think Durant has a second shot. The guy is a pure scorer, if he learns to play defense, pass, REBOUND, and bulks up a lil bit more, he has potential. One thing it seems like he lacks is the urge to be a leader, it seems like Westbrook has that more than Durant.

[D-Wade316]

Does he have potential? Yes, I think any player has potential when they're in their second year. Will he? No, I need to see a lot more to his game.

I dont think anyone currently can be as good as MJ.

Out of all the current players, I think Rose has the greatest shot to be GOAT. He is in a big city, with good players and system surrounding him, he is a SG away from piling up championships, not to mention his hard work ethic and killer instinct. The only thing he lacks is size.

I think Durant has a second shot. The guy is a pure scorer, if he learns to play defense, pass, REBOUND, and bulks up a lil bit more, he has potential. One thing it seems like he lacks is the urge to be a leader, it seems like Westbrook has that more than Durant.

[Collie]

First of all, TD had a much more impressive rookie season. 21-12 with DOMINANT defense. David Robinson had an even better one (24-12 and 3+ bpg). Shaq beat him in every area except FT shooting (23-14, 3 bpg). How about Bird (21-10-5, lead his team to 62 wins from 20+ the year before). Magic (Finals MVP, 19-7-7 as a rookie). MJ (28-6-5). Even Brand put up 20-10 as a rookie.

Most impressive rookie season my ass.

[alenleomessi]

2nd best PF of all time seems possible

[alenleomessi]

Barkley first season 58-24, lost in ECF
Malone first season 42-40, lost in first round
Duncan first season 56-26, lost in 2nd round
Hayes first season, lost in 1st round
Blake Griffin, lottery


These were the great PF's that came into the league NBA ready. Blake Griffin fit this mold, yet he only improved his team by 3 wins.

u forgot to mention that barkley had dr j and moses, malone had dantley and duncan had robinson

[Odinn]

we dont count weak eras. and gtfo of my successful thread.

First of all, TD had a much more impressive rookie season. 21-12 with DOMINANT defense. David Robinson had an even better one (24-12 and 3+ bpg). Shaq beat him in every area except FT shooting (23-14, 3 bpg). How about Bird (21-10-5, lead his team to 62 wins from 20+ the year before). Magic (Finals MVP, 19-7-7 as a rookie). MJ (28-6-5). Even Brand put up 20-10 as a rookie.

Most impressive rookie season my ass.

[blablabla]

Can't see Rose becoming better than CP3. By his 3rd year, CP3 posted a PER of 30
EG will never be better than Wade, just like how no one replaced MJ at the top spot despite his age.
Durant over Lebron in a few years? LOL
Agree
He already is.

[brantonli]

To be anywhere near GOAT, you need huge team success, and I'm not sure Blake will get that with the current team, Jordan and Gordan (sic?). Of course, there's the potential for one of them to completely blow up and become the next Kobe or something, but that's rather unlikely. IMO, if Griffin was placed in the best possible situation, with him being the focus point (so imagine a team like the Thunder but with Griffin instead of Durant), then maybe he has a chance. Rings count hugely towards how well a player is ranked historically.