Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time

[Yung D-Will]

Kareem/Wilt>Magic>Shaq>Kobe.

I don't even care about Kobe but that's stupid. Wilt can't >Magic and Shaq>Kobe if you're talking about greatest players for a franchise you have to consider how long these players played for their franchise and Kobe and Magic played basiclly their whole career for LA and brought success in records or championships

Whiles wilt Spent a very good number of years on other teams and Shaq spent a very good number of years on Orlando and Miami

[CeltsGarlic]

Kobe > Jordan

Messi > C.Ronaldo

[COLOR="White"]obviously NOT.[/COLOR]

[pegasus]

Kobe has zero chance to surpass Jordan. Put down the crack pipe.

If he wins two more FMVP's, I think you would be having second thoughts and debating your decision. You would probably be hoping on and off his pipe, repeatedly.

[RRR3]

If he wins two more FMVP's, I think you would be having second thoughts and debating your decision. You would probably be hoping on and off his pipe, repeatedly.

Keep in mind, Kobe has actually played MORE games than MJ.

Career PPG Regular Season
MJ: 30.12 (Best Ever)
KB: 25.3 (10th Best Ever)

Career PPG Postseason
MJ: 33.4 (Best Ever)
KB: 25.4 (14th best ever)

Single Regular Season High
MJ: 37.1
KB: 35.4

Single Postseason High
MJ: 43.7
KB: 32.8

Scoring Titles
MJ: 10 (including 7 straight)
KB: 2

Times Leading Postseason in PPG
MJ: 10
KB: 3

Regular Seasons 25+ PPG
MJ: 11
KB: 11

Regular Seasons 30+ PPG
MJ: 8
KB: 3

Regular Seasons 35+ PPG
MJ: 2
KB: 1

Postseasons 25+ PPG
MJ: 13
KB: 8

Postseasons 30+ PPG
MJ: 12
KB: 4

Postseasons 35+ PPG
MJ: 5
KB: 0

Postseasons 40+ PPG
MJ: 1
KB: 0

Single Game Regular Season High
MJ: 69
KB: 81

Single Game Postseason High
MJ: 63
KB: 50

Regular Season Games with 50 or more Points
MJ: 31
KB: 24

Postseason Games with 50 or more Points
MJ: 8
Kobe: 1

And that's just scoring, Kobe's biggest strength, and MJ is still clearly better (much better in playoffs and against elite defenses). MJ shits on Kobe as a defender (he deserved his all-defense teams and won a DPOY too), was a better rebounder and passer, won FMVP EVERY finals MVP he ever played in and was much more efficient than Kobe. So no, I don't really care how many more "RINGZZZ" Kobe wins, he'll never be close to Jordan. Sorry.

[Nick Young]

lol if you go by stats is Robertson the GOAT then?

81 points, what is MJ's career high again?

NUFF SED

[RRR3]

lol if you go by stats is Robertson the GOAT then?

81 points, what is MJ's career high again?

NUFF SED

Points is a stat, bright boy.

[iggy>]

6 finals mvps>2... And one of the 2 was stolen from gasol.

[AlexanderRight]

How can he be the greatest player of all time when he's not event the fourth greatest Laker?

[Dbrog]

The 3rd best player in an era can't be the GOAT.



















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[HurricaneKid]

lol if you go by stats is Robertson the GOAT then?

81 points, what is MJ's career high again?

NUFF SED

I'm still pretty new here. I was trying to figure out what the green dots and red dots were under people's names. Did you know that when you put your cursor over his red dots it says

"Nick Young has one of the lowest reputations on this board"

Which explains how he makes this thread.

[32Dayz]

6 finals mvps>2... And one of the 2 was stolen from gasol.

So True.

Finalz VS Boston.

Turnovers.
Kobe : 28
Gasol : 13

G1.
Gasol : 23 / 14 (8 0ffensive) / 3 / 3BPG | 57% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 7 / 6 | 45% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 25 / 8 / 3 / 6BPG | 70% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 5 / 6 | 40% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 13 / 10 / 4 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 29 / 7 / 4 | 34% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 21 / 6 / 3 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 33 / 6 / 2 | 45% shooting
G4 = Kobe > Gasol

G5.
Gasol : 12 / 12 (7 0ffensive) | 42% shooting
Kobe : 38 / 5 / 4 | 48% shooting
G5 = Kobe > Gasol

G6.
Gasol : 17 / 13 (5 0ffensive) / 9 / 3BPG | 44% shooting
Kobe : 26 / 11 / 3 | 47% shooting
G6 = Gasol > Kobe

G7.
Gasol : 19 / 18 (9 offensive) / 4 / 2BPG | 38% shooting
Kobe : 23 / 15 / 2 | 25% shooting
G7 = Gasol > Kobe

Finalz Summary.
7 Games.
Gasol better in 4/7 Games
Gasol better in 3/4 Games Won
Kobe better in 3/7 Games
Gasol > Kobe in Finalz.

[HurricaneKid]

Lets take a look at the #s. People think I'm a Kobe hater. I'm really not. I'm an analytical observer and not impressed with "his killer instinct", etc over measurables.

Jordan led the league in WS and PER a total of 16 times. Kobe has never led the league in either. There are complaints about how PER but that complaint is that it favors the volume shooter, something that should benefit Kobe. IN FACT, KOBE HAS NEVER even been SECOND in PER. And his PER totals are inflated due to his volume shooting as evidenced by his WS totals. HE HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE TOP THREE in WS.

Go watch game 7 of the 06 Suns series or the Finals against the Pistons. All of you that say LBJ quit the last two years will see equally pouty and poor play from Kobe.

He is a great player. He will probably be in my top 10 of all time due to his consistent greatness over the years. But better than MJ? STFU.

[32Dayz]

He is a great player. He will probably be in my top 10 of all time due to his consistent greatness over the years. But better than MJ? STFU.

He will probably always be borderline top 10 for me.

He might get my 10 spot but West/Oscar/KG all have solid arguments for it with a few other people.

+ I strongly believe he will be surpassed by Wade and Lebron when all is said and done. Its practically inevitable at this point unless they suffer serious injurys.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

How can he be the greatest player of all time when he's not event the fourth greatest Laker?

Because the people who only rate him as only the 4th best Laker of all time are dorks on a message board and the people who rate him as the greatest Laker of all time are fellow greats.

[RRR3]

Because the people who only rate him as only the 4th best Laker of all time are dorks on a message board and the people who rate him as the greatest Laker of all time are fellow greats.

No sane person can think Kobe is better than Kareem.