Should The Knicks Regret the Carmelo Trade?

[HurricaneKid]

Not true.

There was no "No Trade Clause" to be waived for Melo.

Nets didnt sign off on the deal at the moment but would've done the deal had the Knicks not stepped in and upped their offer before they had time to weigh their options. If the Knicks weren't around for leverage, Melo would've took his extension simply because he wanted to go to New York and be financially secure with a lockout looming.

Melo was never going to be a "rental".
He wanted an extension regardless of going to NY or NJ.

Now you are just making sh!t up.

[I]that would result in

[Scoooter]

If I recall correctly, the D-Will deal had as much to do with soured locker room relations as anything else. They wanted him gone for his part in pushing Sloan out of town.

[no pun intended]

Should've got Deron Williams...

[Rowe]

Hmm I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the Jazz where offering Williams to whatever of the two teams that didn't get Melo.

Go find that article.

Deron wasnt available until Melo forced his way out.

Do you need me to put up Kevin O'Connor's quote on how the Nets had an offer he couldn't refuse?

[Rowe]

If I recall correctly, the D-Will deal had as much to do with soured locker room relations as anything else. They wanted him gone for his part in pushing Sloan out of town.

Fans did. Not management, considering Sloan resigned because O'Connor sided with Deron as far as their last blow-up.

[Scoooter]

Go find that article.

Deron wasnt available until Melo forced his way out.

Do you need me to put up Kevin O'Connor's quote on how the Nets had an offer he couldn't refuse?

But what does it matter that he forced his way out to the Knicks? Are you seriously contending that the Jazz wouldn't have dealt with the Knicks if Melo had gone to the Nets? They would have gotten a better deal elsewhere?

[Scoooter]

Fans did. Not management, considering Sloan resigned because O'Connor sided with Deron as far as their last blow-up.

Well, they got rid of him anyway. That's the important part.

[Sarcastic]

The Jazz were in no rush to trade Deron for the Knicks package. They would've held onto him for another year.

[Rowe]

[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]Now you are just making sh!t up.

[I]that would result in

[ZenMaster]

Go find that article.

Deron wasnt available until Melo forced his way out.

Do you need me to put up Kevin O'Connor's quote on how the Nets had an offer he couldn't refuse?

I read that they would have given him for either the Nets or the Knicks package that was offered to Denver, either one. I don't think they shopped him openly, but I remember Walsh saying he didn't sniff it out that Deron was available.

You couldn't refuse either package because both Prokhorov and Dolan offered up everything they had.

[Scoooter]

The Jazz were in no rush to trade Deron for the Knicks package. They would've held onto him for another year.

That seems like a stretch.

[magnax1]

Actually $100 Million in all until hes 34.

Well I just meant for the year, but yeah it's just an altogether awful contract. They might still have a shot at unloading it to a dumb team, but sadly it seems more like NY is the dumb team.

[Rowe]

But what does it matter that he forced his way out to the Knicks?

Because it scared their GM and showed him the power of the player.

Remember, O'Connor had just watched 4 "stars" change teams in the offseason to go to bigger markets including Boozer from his own team.

Are you seriously contending that the Jazz wouldn't have dealt with the Knicks if Melo had gone to the Nets?

Because Utah who already had Andrei Kirilenko, Gordan Hayward(2010 1st Rd Pick), & CJ Miles at SF would be interested in Chandler & Gallo?

Those were our "assets". We had no picks nor anything else to offer.

They would have gotten a better deal elsewhere?

If they wanted to deal Deron - Yes

Would they be in a hurry to deal a player with another season left on his contract? No

[Sarcastic]

That seems like a stretch.

They controlled him for another year. Why would they be pressured to trade him a year before his contract was up?

[Rowe]

I read that they would have given him for either the Nets or the Knicks package that was offered to Denver, either one. I don't think they shopped him openly, but I remember Walsh saying he didn't sniff it out that Deron was available.

You couldn't refuse either package because both Prokhorov and Dolan offered up everything they had.

Prokorov had Devin Harris, Derrick Favors(19 yr old #3 Pick), & 4 1st Rounders.

Dolan initially wanted to move no more than 1 of Gallo, Chandler, & Fields until Denver pushed him to move both. What else did we have? Eddy Curry's expirer, Felton, Timofey Mozgov, & Anthony Randolph who's trade value dipped with D'Antoni not playing him.

I'll take the Russian's deal anytime of the week.