More overrated player in NBA history

[DFish]

Still doing the " pick and choose" thing for your hero I see. Funny how he's the ONLY player in NBA history who gets the " pick and choose" path to greatness, don't you think? Where they do that at? ISH, that's where they do that at

See you still holding on to your friends T and S for dear life too huh?

Pick and choose? What is he omitting? Seems like a pretty comprehensive list of statistics.

[Jacks3]

Still doing the " pick and choose" thing for your hero I see.

Not at all. Just pointing out what he did during his "prime/peak years".

That's over a entire decade!

Or you can do 00-11( 11 yrs): 28/6/5/2/56% TS.

Doesn't really matter. You still got a huge sample-size and a accurate representation of who he was as a player over his prime/peak, which is obviously what matters the most when discussing players.

But keep on fooling yourself into thinking he was "only" 25/5/5/2/56%.

[Jacks3]

Pick and choose? What is he omitting? Seems like a pretty comprehensive list of statistics.

Dude is a retard. I didn't realize using numbers over a DECADE was picking and choosing.

[32Dayz]

Kobe playoff TS% from 00-11 = .545%

Lolz Lolz Lolz

And it was like .511% from 00-04 before the sissy hand check rules.

[Nevaeh]

Dude is a retard. I didn't realize using numbers over a DECADE was picking and choosing.

I'm the retard? I'm not the one who s after quoting my own posts like a lunatic. You're leaving out parts of Kobe's career stats on purpose, because you know it'll bring his numbers down across the board.

He's the only player I see this done for here. That's the point I was making about "Picking and Choosing". I guess you can call it "omitting" or " leaving out", if it makes you feel better.

[SyRyanYang]

As a die-hard Kobe fan I admit he's a bit overrated, but the MOST? Com'on. And all you Kobe stans posting his achievement, gtfo

[SyRyanYang]

Kobe playoff TS% from 00-11 = .545%

Lolz Lolz Lolz

And it was like .511% from 00-04 before the sissy hand check rules.

It's either .545 or 54.5%

[I.R.Beast]

Lol, we are all just trolling the OP if you haven't noticed. OPs a Durant nut licker.

oh my bad...continue...lol

[Jacks3]

Most overrated ever? I have to go with Snaq.

By far the worst intangibles/work-ethic of any All-Time great. Burned bridges everywhere he went. Never won without the best SG in the league, and needed a top 3 player in the league for 3/4 titles. Swept in the PS on 8 different occasions. Biggest underachiever in history. Consistently mediocre defender whose teams tended to suck defensively outside 00,02. HORRIFIC pick-roll defender who literally cost his team entire series with his awful p/r D. That's how bad it was.

Had stacked teams his entire career with Penny/Scott/Anderson then Eddie Jones/NVE/Kobe/Rice etc then prime Kobe then prime Wade then prime Nash.

Not mention all the bullshit offensive fouls he got away with.

Most overrated player ever

Wow.

Biggest underachiever in history.

[Jacks3]

. You're leaving out parts of Kobe's career stats on purpose, because you know it'll bring his numbers down across the board.

Like I said, I'm using a huge sample size over a decade.

This:
Here are his numbers over nearly a decade:

28.5 PPG/5.8 RPG/5.4 APG/1.8 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS

Here are his seasons over this stretch:
29/6/5/2/55% TS
25/6/6/2/55% TS
30/7/6/2/1/55% TS
24/5/5/2/56% TS
28/6/6/1/56% TS
35/5/5/2/56% TS
32/6/5/2/58% TS
28/6/5/2/58% TS
27/5/5/2/56% TS
27/5/5/2/55% TS

Accolades/Accomplishments during this time:
4-Time NBA Champion
6-Time NBA Finalist
16X Player of the Month
8X All-NBA 1st Team
1X All-NBA 2nd Team
7X All-NBA 1st Team Defense
2X All-NBA 2nd Team Defense
9X All-Star
4X All-Star MVP
1X NBA-MVP
2X NBA-Finals MVP

Over this stretch he had:
24X 50+ point games
5X 60+ point games
105 40+ point games

Some of his sickest stretches:
9 straight 40+ point games (2003)
13 straight 35+ point games (2003)
4 straight 45+ point games (2006)
4 straight 50+ point games (2007)
Averaged 40+ PPG in four different months
Averaged 37/6/5/59% TS post All-Star Break (2007)
81 pts
62 pts in three quarters
8 different games where he recorded 50+ points through three quarters of play

Some of his best playoff runs:
2001: 29 PPG/7 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/56% TS. NBA Championship. Lakers go 15-1.
2002: 27 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/52% TS. NBA Championship.
2008: 30 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/58% TS. NBA Finals
2009: 30 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/57% TS. NBA Championship
2010: 29 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/57% TS. NBA Championship


Is not picking and choosing. It's a accurate representation of who he was a player over his prime/peak. Deal with it, ya clown.

[32Dayz]

Most overrated ever? I have to go with Snaq.

By far the worst intangibles

GOAT at attracting defensive attention which directly makes life easier on his teammates?

One of the best passing Centers ever which combined his the above intangible makes him one of the best ever at improving players around him?

Dominant defensive anchor for most of his Career?

Those are by far the worst intangibles?

Shaq unlike Kobe who has (no intangibles) (other then the GOAT ability to Chuck) has GOAT intangibles. only a handful of players might have better and even that is arguable.

Playoff PER

A's (Main Star) :
Shaq (00-02) : 29
Jordan (91-93 + 96-98) : 28.53

B's (Side-Kicks) :
Kobe (00-02) : 21
Pippen (91-93 + 96-98) : 19.5

The difference is clear and obvious.

Stay Mad ****.

[32Dayz]

MVP Shares / Votes / Points from 01-05.
TMac : 925
Kobe : 817

01 - 05
TMac > Kobe

Players from this Generation :

Jordan > Shaq >>> Duncan >>>>> KG/Kobe

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#1.
Jordan : Post Season - PER
Peak : 32
Top 5 : 30.16
Top 7 : 29.61
Top 10 : 28.89
Top 13 : 28.6

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#6.
Lebron : Post Season - PER
Peak : 37.4
Top 5 : 27.58
Top 7 : 26.77

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#9.
Wade : Post Season - PER
Peak : 29.4
Top 5 : 26.64
Top 7 : 24.5

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#10.
TMac : Post Season - PER
Peak : 27.2
Top 5 : 26.2
Top 7 : 24.5

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#11.
Jerry West : Post Season - PER
Peak : 26.7
Top 5 : 25.36
Top 7 : 24.59

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#15.
Kobe : Post Season - PER
Peak : 26.8
Top 5 : 24
Top 7 : 23
Top 10 : 22.98
Top 13 : 21.62

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Interesting.

Good Post Jacks.

[Jacks3]

Most overrated ever? I have to go with Snaq.

By far the worst intangibles/work-ethic of any All-Time great. Burned bridges everywhere he went. Never won without the best SG in the league, and needed a top 3 player in the league for 3/4 titles. Swept in the PS on 8 different occasions. Biggest underachiever in history. Consistently mediocre defender whose teams tended to suck defensively outside 00,02. HORRIFIC pick-roll defender who literally cost his team entire series with his awful p/r D. That's how bad it was.

Had stacked teams his entire career with Penny/Scott/Anderson then Eddie Jones/NVE/Kobe/Rice etc then prime Kobe then prime Wade then prime Nash.

Wow.

Biggest underachiever in history.

Not mention all the bullshit offensive fouls he got away with.

Most overrated player ever.

[32Dayz]

Like I said, I'm using a huge sample size over a decade.

Here are his seasons over this stretch:
29/6/5/2/55% TS
25/6/6/2/55% TS
30/7/6/2/1/55% TS
24/5/5/2/56% TS
28/6/6/1/56% TS
35/5/5/2/56% TS
32/6/5/2/58% TS
28/6/5/2/58% TS
27/5/5/2/56% TS
27/5/5/2/55% TS

I hate to inform you of this Jacks3 but Kobe only has 8 seasons in his entire Career where he shot 55+%TS

In the playoffs he has only 6
(All but one of them coming before the new sissy hand check rules)

So obviously the stats you are posting are fake/made up and no one in their right mind should pay any attention to the madeup bullshit you post.

[1987_Lakers]

Hmmm...most overrated NBA players...

Bob Cousy
Reggie Miller
Pete Maravich

Easy.

Best post in this entire thread. It is an absolute joke that Maravich made the top 50 players of all time list, and some treat Reggie Miller like a God when all he could do was shoot.

I have more respect for Cousy because he changed the game, but he was very inefficient & a horrible defender, he wouldn't make an NBA roster today.