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    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    Does he really have to? How much does Dwight want Brooklyn and to play with Deron?

    As we approach the trading deadline, the Nets gain more and more leverage for Dwight cause at some point they'll have to realize that they'll lose Dwight for nothing. Seeing how no other team is willing to rent him for less than half a season, what's the alternative? The Lakers? Andrew Bynum? How compelled are the Lakers to think they are that much better off with Dwight than Bynum? What will they have to give up?

    I think if you go into the negotiations with a stern proposition:This is what we're offering, this parts are interchangeable into this deal, and these players (Deron/Marshon) are completely off the table..they should be able to get something done.
    Why do you keep saying this? Unlike the Nets the Lakers can actually get another team invloved because Andrew is valued around the league. Meanwhile all the Nets have is Lopez & Brooks. The Magic would be dumb to trade Howard for just those guys & who else in the league would be willing to get Lopez & Brooks by trading some of their pieces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeGetRing2012
    Why do you keep saying this? Unlike the Nets the Lakers can actually get another team invloved because Andrew is valued around the league. Meanwhile all the Nets have is Lopez & Brooks. The Magic would be dumb to trade Howard for just those guys & who else in the league would be willing to get Lopez & Brooks by trading some of their pieces?
    This is bullshit. Net's like the Lakers can get another team involved, the Lakers can not take back Hedo and Duhon, two sizable contract's the Net's can absorb.
    Net's also have 2 first rounder's, which include's a lottery pick ( Don't give me that Dwight is gonna somehow lead this scrubby team to an sufficient amount a win's that it wont be a top pick).

    Magic would be dumb to not shed Hedo, and even Duhon's contract's
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    Quote Originally Posted by D12"Magic"
    This is bullshit. Net's like the Lakers can get another team involved, the Lakers can not take back Hedo and Duhon, two sizable contract's the Net's can absorb.
    Net's also have 2 first rounder's, which include's a lottery pick ( Don't give me that Dwight is gonna somehow lead this scrubby team to an sufficient amount a win's that it wont be a top pick).

    Magic would be dumb to not shed Hedo, and even Duhon's contract's
    The Lakers can take back Hedo's contract depending on who else gets involved. Bottom line is that the Nets don't have better assets than the Lakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D12"Magic"
    This is bullshit. Net's like the Lakers can get another team involved, the Lakers can not take back Hedo and Duhon, two sizable contract's the Net's can absorb.
    Net's also have 2 first rounder's, which include's a lottery pick ( Don't give me that Dwight is gonna somehow lead this scrubby team to an sufficient amount a win's that it wont be a top pick).

    Magic would be dumb to not shed Hedo, and even Duhon's contract's
    why the fcuk u keep saying lottery pick? its not going to be....once u get howard....out of 31 games u will win 15-20 and that gets you out of lottery...next years pick is going to be as good as lakers

    Devos wanted to win now...and so wanted players who could help...Lakers can get Scola any day they want for TPE

    Bynum/Scola/ 2 1st rounders for Howard and Hedo works...lakers can add any or all of ebanks/morris/goudelock

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    It depends on how highly the Magic value Bynum. He is the most valuable piece out there. Lopez isn't signed for next year and coming off a stress fracture. His health was a major selling point over Bynum, remember.

    If they want Bynum, then the Lakers will figure something out. THe problem is the Lakers are willing to deal on their terms and the Nets (if you believe anything) are wanting to deal at all costs. Who would you bet gets it done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko
    It depends on how highly the Magic value Bynum. He is the most valuable piece out there. Lopez isn't signed for next year and coming off a stress fracture. His health was a major selling point over Bynum, remember.

    If they want Bynum, then the Lakers will figure something out. THe problem is the Lakers are willing to deal on their terms and the Nets (if you believe anything) are wanting to deal at all costs. Who would you bet gets it done?

    Fact is trading for Howard is a luxury for the lakers & not a necessity.
    For nets they have to overpay to get Howard or else they will lose deron too. So its not only about trading for Howard but also retaining deron

    Lakers need a PG in worst way & that's a necessity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakers_Kobe_Fan
    Fact is trading for Howard is a luxury for the lakers & not a necessity.
    For nets they have to overpay to get Howard or else they will lose deron too. So its not only about trading for Howard but also retaining deron

    Lakers need a PG in worst way & that's a necessity
    Which makes it more likely Nets get Howard than Lakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakers_Kobe_Fan
    Lakers can get Scola any day they want for TPE



    With respect, what the hell are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko
    Which makes it more likely Nets get Howard than Lakers.
    No it doesn't. Bynum is a better trade assets than anything the Nets are willing to trade. Who else in the league needs an Brook Lopez coming back from injury & Marshon Brooks??
    Last edited by WeGetRing2012; 02-25-2012 at 08:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeGetRing2012
    No it doesn't. Bynum is a better trade assets than anything the Nets are willing to trade. Who else in the league needs an Brook Lopez coming back from injury & Marshon Brooks??
    You keep saying that the Lakers don't need Howard and can move on their own pace, etc. If the Lakers are that casual about Howard i don't see how they get him. The nets literally were sending every asset they could last time, their two young stars, like every pick they will ever have, taking back all the salary they could, etc.

    I think the Lakers might get Howard (i just think if you look at the Magic's thinking Bynum makes more sense) but it looks like the Nets are in the lead now.

    I love how before the NEt fans told me im a jerk cause i said hes going to LA and now the Laker fans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko
    You keep saying that the Lakers don't need Howard and can move on their own pace, etc. If the Lakers are that casual about Howard i don't see how they get him. The nets literally were sending every asset they could last time, their two young stars, like every pick they will ever have, taking back all the salary they could, etc.

    I think the Lakers might get Howard (i just think if you look at the Magic's thinking Bynum makes more sense) but it looks like the Nets are in the lead now.

    I love how before the NEt fans told me im a jerk cause i said hes going to LA and now the Laker fans are.

    its not about being jerk....its kind of funny when you talk to fans...everybody says Lakers should trade both Pau/Bynum for Howard.....but for nets they should be able to get him for Lopez/Brooks as the main guys...

    Lakers are in no way going to trade both bynum and pau for Howard....just not...

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    Default Re: Report: Nets Working On Multi-Team Trade Scenarios To Acquire Howard Read more: http

    Quote Originally Posted by niko
    You don't think the Lakers would part with Bynum for Dwight? Of course they would. And they wouldn't have to give up too much more to match any Net offer. (assuming you are holding brooks out)

    I think the NEts are clearly in the drivers seat - 100%. But I see it as very dangerous to make it where Orlando feels engaging the Lakers is a good idea. If a Bynum + Lakers 2 first rounders + trade exception to absorb Orlando's crap is on the table, i don't see how Nets get cheap.

    If the Nets don't get Howard, they potenially put themselves on a path that they will have wasted years of acquired assets. Is playing hardball worth risking that? I'm not so sure, and i think if it was my job on the line, id really be hestitant to do that.

    For you, its easy to say "hold out". For Billy King, holding out might get him fired. If he gets Howard, no matter what he gives up, he'll be lauded as a fantastic GM.

    I understand the pressure Billy is under, but he has still keep a steady hand. If he's gonna fortune every asset not named Deron, it's gonna work against his favor.

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    Default Re: Report: Nets Working On Multi-Team Trade Scenarios To Acquire Howard Read more: http

    Quote Originally Posted by WeGetRing2012
    Why do you keep saying this? Unlike the Nets the Lakers can actually get another team invloved because Andrew is valued around the league. Meanwhile all the Nets have is Lopez & Brooks. The Magic would be dumb to trade Howard for just those guys & who else in the league would be willing to get Lopez & Brooks by trading some of their pieces?
    Is he really? I haven't seen many rumors swirling about Bynum. We don't just have Brook and Lopez, we have plenty of draft picks, a less than one year contract for Kris Humphries. We have plenty of moving parts, perhaps even more flexible than LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    I understand the pressure Billy is under, but he has still keep a steady hand. If he's gonna fortune every asset not named Deron, it's gonna work against his favor.
    its just that if we are proceeding under the thought that the talking heads are right, we also are proceeding under the thought that the nets first offer was at least ballpark accurate, and it was the world. its tough, because if Billy King gets Howard, his job is probably safe for years. If he does not, he may get fired pretty soon because the Nets will possibly lose Deron. Because of this, i can't see how he doesn't give away a lot. Especially because Prokorov is nowhere near the nets nowadays, he's pretty busy.

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    D12 wearing a headband pretty much confirms he's going to the nets right

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