derrick rose is not a top 3 player in the league

[Stern]

Durant
Westbrook
Rose
Irving

are the leagues future...time for people to get used to it..

Unibrow will be second best after Durant.

[Tenchi Ryu]

lebron was doing what rose did a few years back with a worst team/coach, wade would be better in rose position, kobe with the bulls would probably have beat the heat last year or extended the series to 7. Rose is an inefficient undersized shooting guard, that can get away with being inefficient cuz of the team that he has

You really need to watch him this year, and stop using last year ECF as your "proof"

[RRR3]

Besides Wade none of those guys did better in their third year.



But seeing ur a Knicks fanu probably don't know much about basketball.

LeBron did. 31/7/7 in his 3rd season

[28renyoy]

Besides Wade none of those guys did better in their third year.



But seeing ur a Knicks fanu probably don't know much about basketball.

Durant 30/8/3 61 TS% and LeBron 31/7/7 56 TS%>>>25/3/8 55 TS%

[NumberSix]

For my personal homer list, I have him at 3 under Lebron and Durant, but realistically, he's definitely considered a top 5 by most.

I have Rose tied for #5 with Westbrook and i openly troll D-Rose daily.

I'm banking on him challenging Durant's new spot as best if Rose has a superstar level postseason and can grab the ring and FMVP. It did wonders for Dirk.

People need to ease up on the Durant train. Bron, Dwight & Wade are still comfortably better than him. I have KD at #4 myself, but people are really jumping the gun on this one. This is too weird of a season to be making definitive statements about guys moving up over other guys at the top.

[SyRyanYang]

Who says so? He's not even top5

[demons2005]

Who says so? He's not even top5

sometimes i wish the mods on here weren't so laissez faire

[Indian guy]

lebron was doing what rose did a few years back with a worst team/coach

What does this have to do with who's better today?

wade would be better in rose position

Maybe a fully healthy Wade, but that's the thing, when is Wade ever fully healthy? He also has odd stretches of games where he just looks disinterested to me. He isn't clutch either.

kobe with the bulls would probably have beat the heat last year or extended the series to 7.

The same Kobe who let Dallas sweep him with home-court last season? Same Kobe who's currently worse in PER and TS%? Kobe has no claim on being better than Rose this season.

Rose is an inefficient undersized shooting guard

He was battling serious back spasms his last 5 games and that killed his efficiency. He had a TS% of .570+ this season otherwise. Was averaging 24/8/57 TS% with peerless clutch play. Don't tell me he isn't a beast.

[Dave3]

Who says he is top 3 right now?

You don't think it's arguable? I definitely have him top 6 with top 2 being LeBron/Durant then the next 4 being Kobe/Wade/Rose/Dwight interchangeably, so I think he has an argument for that 3rd spot right?

[ballinhun8]

I was talking also about leadership, team success, personal accolades. So, sorry, dont csre if you agree but Rose MVP and ECF (albeit sub-par) appearance trumps Durant and James "ts" "efg" "drtg" "win shares" eff" whatever stupid crap u wanna throw in also.

[CardiacKemba]

I can't put him top 3, but he just outside of that for me, he's missed too many games. Had he not missed all those games, he MAY have stamped his authority more on the league. I guess he will have the opportunity in the playoffs if he really wants to show he is in the top 3. I've got LeBron, Durant, Dwight and Wade all above him (in no particular order) and I seriously consider it hard for anyone, including Bulls fans, to realistically argue Rose over any of them. He is on the next tier with Paul, Kobe, Love, Dirk and arguably Westbrook.

[Glide2keva]

Why make a thread like this?

Because it's okay to hate on Rose. They've been doing it since the day he stepped foot in this league.

We're used to it as someone said before.

[CardiacKemba]

Because it's okay to hate on Rose. They've been doing it since the day he stepped foot in this league.

We're used to it as someone said before.

As I said in that 'why does everyone hate on LeBron thread', where plenty of Bulls fans tore him a new a-hole, people will always find reasons to hate on superstars. It's nothing new, and it won't change.

[ILLsmak]

rose will never be as good of a player as durant

I disagree because Rose can ball-handle. He can bring the ball up the court and score. That's very important to have at times in close games.

I'd say Rose is already a better player than Durant.

LeBron is better than Rose... but after that I'd say anyone else you can name you couldn't argue that they were FOR SURE better than Rose.

-Smak

[Glide2keva]

As I said in that 'why does everyone hate on LeBron thread', where plenty of Bulls fans tore him a new a-hole, people will always find reasons to hate on superstars. It's nothing new, and it won't change.

No, Bulls fans hate lebron because he's a douche bag. Him dancing on the sidelines was completely disrespectful. Plus add in the division rivaly between the Bulls and Cavs and you're going to get that hate.

That's why Bulls fans hate him.

Rose gets hated on for trying to be the best on the floor. He gets hated on because he isn't a douche bag. The list goes on and on.