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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by raptorfan_dr07
Gasol was the 2010 Finals MVP.
Nah
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
This makes the NBA look like such a joke today.
What would Rondo be doing for a living if the rules were still like this? Would JJ Barea have still been able to pull Miss Universe? Would Goran Dragic be a professional Tennis player? Would people be dumb enough to ask if Kobe was as good as Micheal?
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by t-rex
Thanks for posting.
2 Observations:
1)What an eye opener. The league 20 years ago was MUCH MORE PHYSICAL than it is today. Its amazing how the game has changed. What the NBA has done in the last 15 years to basketball, is very much like what the NFL has done over the same period to try and increase the passing game in football. Defenses are much more limited today. Jordan by today's rules would be much tougher to defend.
2) Jordan was very effective as a low post/ post up player. That is a lost art in todays game. We think of Jordan as streaking to the basket off the dribble, but like Bird, a SUBSTANTIAL amount of his points came from the post. Lebron James should see this and take notes.
I like this post except the bold. Any real MJ fan knows he did A LOT of posting up during his second 3peat.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
All the younger fans should take note of the paint on defense and how much more crowded it is when it's not illegal to play defense in the paint like it is today. Jeremy Lin would be working as a lawyer if the rules were still like this.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
You talking about 2009 and 2010?
2009 Finals
32.4 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 7.4 apg
5th player to average a 30-5-5 Finals series
First player since Jerry West in '69 to put up 32 and 7 in a Finals series
2010 Finals
28.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.9 apg
Most rebounds by a guard in a Finals series since '91
higher ppg, rpg, spg, bpg than Jordan in '96
Lmao....learn to read ur fellow jockers posts, he is referring to Game 6, Jordan shooting 5 for 19 and having bad 4th quarter....please don't have me post Kobes numbers in 2010 dude is a career 40% shooter in the finals and has no memorable moments, those belong to Derek Fisher.
Also let's not post teammates production, I've been down this path, posted facts, u guys simply ignore all truths, then cry why people hate on Kobe. U sir are a prime example, see u do shit like this and think u proved some massive point, ur high fiv'n ur roommate who's probably on you tube spewing the same garbage. "We got'em now".........really, u guys somehow conjure up these bullshit theories and myths. Like ur post:
Find Jordans worst finals ever, against DPOY Payton, Second team all defense Nate McMillan, Askew, Schrempf, and Hawkins......take that series which is right on par with Kobes career final numbers, against Lee, Pietrus, Allen, Allen and Pierce, manipulate Kobes numbers by posting his basic stats, while ignoring his horrid fourth quarters throughout the Celtics series, his ability to watch Fisher rack up more clutch moments in those two series than Kobe has his entire finals career. Continue to ignore Jordans finals prior to and after this.....let's just hang on the one, which was Jordans first full season after a retirement
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Cladyclad
Wow to whoever made that video. It almost sounds like as if he's going to cry at one moment there, or like the Celtics using the zone defense was unfair, because it meant that Kobe had to play against two or three guys instead of passing to a wide open man not to mention him trying to make Jordan look bad.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Calabis
Lmao....learn to read ur fellow jockers posts, he is referring to Game 6, Jordan shooting 5 for 19 and having bad 4th quarter....please don't have me post Kobes numbers in 2010 dude is a career 40% shooter in the finals and has no memorable moments, those belong to Derek Fisher.
Also let's not post teammates production, I've been down this path, posted facts, u guys simply ignore all truths, then cry why people hate on Kobe. U sir are a prime example, see u do shit like this and think u proved some massive point, ur high fiv'n ur roommate who's probably on you tube spewing the same garbage. "We got'em now".........really, u guys somehow conjure up these bullshit theories and myths. Like ur post:
Find Jordans worst finals ever, against DPOY Payton, Second team all defense Nate McMillan, Askew, Schrempf, and Hawkins......take that series which is right on par with Kobes career final numbers, against Lee, Pietrus, Allen, Allen and Pierce, manipulate Kobes numbers by posting his basic stats, while ignoring his horrid fourth quarters throughout the Celtics series, his ability to watch Fisher rack up more clutch moments in those two series than Kobe has his entire finals career. Continue to ignore Jordans finals prior to and after this.....let's just hang on the one, which was Jordans first full season after a retirement
Jordan's first Finals numbers destroys Kobe's career in the Finals, yet they want to hang on to 1996. When Jordan's WORST Finals is equal to Kobe CAREER Finals numbers, then there isn't much to be said.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Glide2keva
Jordan's first Finals numbers destroys Kobe's career in the Finals, yet they want to hang on to 1996. When Jordan's WORST Finals is equal to Kobe CAREER Finals numbers, then there isn't much to be said.
Kobe
04 Pistons 95.4
01 76ers 98.9
08 Celtics 98.9
02 Nets 99.5
09 Magic 101.9
00 Pacers 103.6
10 Celtics 103.8
Jordan
96 Sonics 102.1
97 Jazz 104.0
92 Blazers 104.2
91 Lakers 105.0
98 Jazz 105.4
93 Suns 106.7
The toughest D Jordan faced in the Finals would be a below average Finals opponent for Kobe.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
Kobe
04 Pistons 95.4
01 76ers 98.9
08 Celtics 98.9
02 Nets 99.5
09 Magic 101.9
00 Pacers 103.6
10 Celtics 103.8
Jordan
96 Sonics 102.1
97 Jazz 104.0
92 Blazers 104.2
91 Lakers 105.0
98 Jazz 105.4
93 Suns 106.7
The toughest D Jordan faced in the Finals would be a below average Finals opponent for Kobe.
That defense rating shit is flawed. Maybe not I guess scrub teams are a better defensive team then 1996 bulls. Lmao according to ur ratings the teams that didn't even make the playoffs are better then the 90s bulls. Get ur dumb statistic out of here
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by juju151111
That defense rating shit is flawed. Maybe not I guess scrub teams are a better defensive team then 1996 bulls. Lmao according to ur ratings the teams that didn't even make the playoffs are better then the 90s bulls. Get ur dumb statistic out of here
Jordan mythologists...
- Love citing offensive statistics
- Hate when people point out the defensive statistics of the teams Jordan faced
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
Jordan mythologists...
- Love citing offensive statistics
- Hate when people point out the defensive statistics of the teams Jordan faced
You mad ur stat got called out ages ago. Lol tell Kome to step his 40% shooting up
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by juju151111
You mad ur stat got called out ages ago. Lol tell Kome to step his 40% shooting up
Will do. Unfortunately defenses on Par with Jordan's era don't usually make the playoffs in this era, let alone the Finals.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
Will do. Unfortunately defenses on Par with Jordan's era don't usually make the playoffs in this era, let alone the Finals.
Save the hyperbole for your fanbois.
League Drtg last year was 107.3. That means teams gave up 107.3 pts/100 possessions. That is pretty much EXACTLY the same as in 1996. In 97 the Drtg was 106.7. In '98 it was 105. Educate yourself.
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
Will do. Unfortunately defenses on Par with Jordan's era don't usually make the playoffs in this era, let alone the Finals.
1996 bulls were scrub defensivly
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Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Save the hyperbole for your fanbois.
League Drtg last year was 107.3. That means teams gave up 107.3 pts/100 possessions. That is pretty much EXACTLY the same as in 1996. In 97 the Drtg was 106.7. In '98 it was 105. Educate yourself.
Kobe wasn't in the Finals last year and never faced a league average defense in the Finals. How is this relevant?
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