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    Default Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Good post, Andgar. I would probably take Dwight because of his defensive prowess (the impact a big has on the defensive end is immeasurable). Rik was the man though. As you said, the guy was like Pau but more physical.
    But it won't be as if Smits would be a liability on the defensive end either. His height and wingspan alone would be trouble. Howard's defense comes from his athleticism, a prime athletic peak Smits wouldn't be that inferior to Howard defensively, while being significantly better offensively.

    Actually today's game would be better suited for him than it was during his era, his numbers would jump up all across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteballer
    WOW

    You guys must take Illgauskus over Howard too

    Fookin Rik Smits owning the league today...I think I've heard it all now

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmax
    Fookin Rik Smits owning the league today...I think I've heard it all now
    Why wouldn't he ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by madmax

    Fookin Rik Smits owning the league today...I think I've heard it all now
    Bynum is the 2nd best center in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    Why wouldn't he ?

    They don't have a rebuttal, since they never really saw him play, or can't understand what he would be able to do in this era. They look at the stats and just assume that he'd suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Bynum is the 2nd best center in the league.
    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    They don't have a rebuttal, since they never really saw him play, or can't understand what he would be able to do in this era. They look at the stats and just assume that he'd suck.
    Not only that...

    It also should be noted that Smits was an all-star.. in 98. Vlade Divac was an all-star in the 2000's.

    Yet, these guys wouldn't dominate in how the game's played today ? Sure, they might hinder them a little... but they were more or less finesse big men.

    I mean Roy Hibbert, Al Horford, etc... are all-stars today. So I can see those guys dominate as well.

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    Default Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    Not only that...

    It also should be noted that Smits was an all-star.. in 98. Vlade Divac was an all-star in the 2000's.

    Yet, these guys wouldn't dominate in how the game's played today ? Sure, they might hinder them a little... but they were more or less finesse big men.

    [COLOR="Red"]I mean Roy Hibbert, Al Horford, etc... are all-stars today. So I can see those guys dominate as well.[/COLOR]

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    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    They don't have a rebuttal, since they never really saw him play, or can't understand what he would be able to do in this era. They look at the stats and just assume that he'd suck.
    I dont need to bother rebutting someone when they say pigs can fly either

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    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Huh ?

    When I meant "those guys", I'm referring to Smits and Divac.

    If you thought today... I was talking about this era in general. Horford was an the all-star last 2 years and Hibbert an all-star this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    In a Howard vs Smits matchup, I'm taking Smits 8 outta 10 times.

    The slight edge goes over Howard defensively, but half the shit he does vs today's 6'10 weak centers aint gonna work on Smits, who was 7'4 with a long wingspan and very athletic (for his size) before his injuries.

    If Smits played today, he'd be the best center.

    People don't wanna believe me?

    Bynum is considered the 2nd best center in the league at the moment . Smits was as skilled as Gasol, but taller and tougher (much tougher). There would be NOBODY that would be able to stop Smits. He'd kill you in the inside (who's gonna guard him?) and kill you in the outside as well (again, who's gonna guard him?). Even if you throw a double team at him, the rules are soft and he'd just shoot over most of them, from either the perimeter or the post. If Yao was damn near impossible to stop in the paint, imagine what a longer armed, more physical Smits would do.
    7'4" with a career average of 6.1 rebounds a game.

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    Default Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals

    For the record I saw Smits play, there's not much difference between him and prime Illgauskus

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    Default Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    Huh ?

    When I meant "those guys", I'm referring to Smits and Divac.
    I was alluding to Hilbert and Horford being all stars....def worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku
    7'4" with a career average of 6.1 rebounds a game.
    Roy Hibbert 7'2 with a career average of 6.4 rebounds per game = All-Star today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    I was alluding to Hilbert and Horford being all stars....def worthy.
    Yeah for sure. Weakest era of centers, by far.

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    Default Re: Micheal Jordan vs Sonics defense 1996 finals

    Are people forgetting that Rik Smits was 7'4" with butter soft touch around the basket ? People who talk sh*t probably didn't see him pre injury before his foot problems became too much to handle



    He'd be an all star today

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