And what that means..... is that Lebron is automatically in Top 10 and is on debate to who should be #4-#6 of all time........
The only players he would still not surpass are Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and maybe not Wilt Chamberlain either....
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04-18-2012, 01:37 AM #31NBA Legend
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
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04-18-2012, 01:41 AM #32Dunking on everybody in the park
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
[QUOTE=pauk]Well considering that means around 3 more seasons, that would make his career accomplishments look something like this:
LEBRON JAMES NBA CAREER
4 x MVP
2 x FMVP
2 x Championships
Rookie of the Year
11 x NBA All-Star
1 x NBA scoring champion
9 x All-NBA 1st team
7 x All-Defensive 1st team
3 x All-Star MVP
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
25 x Player of the Month trophies (most in NBA history)
STATS:
26362 points @ 27.6 PPG (#3 all time)
6600 rebounds @ 7.1 RPG
6600 assists @ 7.0 APG
1500 steals @ 1.7 SPG
750 blocks @ 0.8 BPG
50+ total triple doubles
PER - ~27 (#2 all-time and #3 in Playoffs, after Michael Jordan)
NBA achievements
One of eight players in NBA history to score 2,000 points seven consecutive seasons..[1] Includes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Alex English, Karl Malone, Oscar Robertson, Dominique Wilkins.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists in their rookie season.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson, Michael Jordan, Tyreke Evans.
One of five players in NBA history to average over 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season (achieved this four times).[1] Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this six times), John Havlicek (achieved this twice), Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan.
One of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this five times) and Michael Jordan.
One of four player in NBA history to average at least 31 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a season.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this twice), Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for six consecutive seasons.[1] Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this eight consecutive times.
One of two players in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists in a season for at least six seasons.[1] Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this six times in his career.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 25 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists for their career.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
Only player in NBA history to average at least 26 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for their career.[1]
Only player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists and 100 steals in four straight seasons.[1]
One of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists in a postseason series.[2] Includes Oscar Robertson and Larry Bird.
One of three players in NBA history to record a triple-double in their playoff debut.[1] Includes Johnny McCarthy and Magic Johnson.
One of two players in NBA history to win the NBA Player of the Month Award four times for two consecutive seasons.[3] Tied with Kevin Garnett, who achieved the same in the 2003-04 NBA Season.
One of four players in NBA history to lead their team in all five major statistical categories (total points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) in a season (2008
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04-18-2012, 01:41 AM #33Gawdbe GOATsol Nashty
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
[QUOTE=pauk]Well considering that means around 3 more seasons, that would make his career accomplishments look something like this:
LEBRON JAMES NBA CAREER
4 x MVP
2 x FMVP
2 x Championships
Rookie of the Year
11 x NBA All-Star
1 x NBA scoring champion
9 x All-NBA 1st team
7 x All-Defensive 1st team
3 x All-Star MVP
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
25 x Player of the Month trophies (most in NBA history)
STATS:
26362 points @ 27.6 PPG (#3 all time)
6600 rebounds @ 7.1 RPG
6600 assists @ 7.0 APG
1500 steals @ 1.7 SPG
750 blocks @ 0.8 BPG
50+ total triple doubles
PER - ~27 (#2 all-time and #3 in Playoffs, after Michael Jordan)
NBA achievements
One of eight players in NBA history to score 2,000 points seven consecutive seasons..[1] Includes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Alex English, Karl Malone, Oscar Robertson, Dominique Wilkins.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists in their rookie season.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson, Michael Jordan, Tyreke Evans.
One of five players in NBA history to average over 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season (achieved this four times).[1] Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this six times), John Havlicek (achieved this twice), Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan.
One of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this five times) and Michael Jordan.
One of four player in NBA history to average at least 31 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a season.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this twice), Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for six consecutive seasons.[1] Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this eight consecutive times.
One of two players in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists in a season for at least six seasons.[1] Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this six times in his career.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 25 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists for their career.[1] Includes Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
Only player in NBA history to average at least 26 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for their career.[1]
Only player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists and 100 steals in four straight seasons.[1]
One of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists in a postseason series.[2] Includes Oscar Robertson and Larry Bird.
One of three players in NBA history to record a triple-double in their playoff debut.[1] Includes Johnny McCarthy and Magic Johnson.
One of two players in NBA history to win the NBA Player of the Month Award four times for two consecutive seasons.[3] Tied with Kevin Garnett, who achieved the same in the 2003-04 NBA Season.
One of four players in NBA history to lead their team in all five major statistical categories (total points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) in a season (2008
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04-18-2012, 01:42 AM #34NBA All-star
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
So with two titles, Lebron is #3 all time??
Originally Posted by pauk
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04-18-2012, 01:42 AM #35Good High School Starter
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
But anyway probably somewhere around 9-12 area Originally Posted by Scholar
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04-18-2012, 01:43 AM #36Kobe Apostle
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
Championships Originally Posted by pauk
Russell - 11
Jordan - 6
Kareem - 6
Magic - 5
Kobe - 5
Mikan - 5
Shaq - 4
Duncan - 4
Bird - 3
Hakeem - 2
Wilt - 2
Winning 2 rings will not surpass those 11 players.
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04-18-2012, 01:44 AM #37Good High School Starter
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
Originally Posted by pauk
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04-18-2012, 01:51 AM #38NBA Legend
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
How come...? Originally Posted by CardiacKemba
Wiki....A lot of those things you mentioned (which by the way I have no idea how you know half those facts)
I listed his career accomplishments/achievements/milestones.... take it for what its worth...are pointless when considering a player's all-time ranking.
1st player in NBA History to receive 2.5 million NBA All-Star votes on 3 separate occasions.
Those milestones will not help him dramatically in the all-time list but it is a good information to have when you want to sepparate him from somebody else who has equal amount of rings-mvps and so on......... if you have nothing else to sepparate them about, then you can find things out such as these to help your case....
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04-18-2012, 01:51 AM #39NBA Legend
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
Yes... are you slowminded or something? What is it? Originally Posted by Mach_3
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04-18-2012, 01:55 AM #40Good High School Starter
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
The fact that you think that 2 titles puts Lebron 4th on the all time list is priceless Originally Posted by pauk
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04-18-2012, 02:02 AM #41NBA Legend
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
This guy...... haha.... Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Unfortunately my friend..... caring only about team accomplishments and nothing else would change that list much more dramatically than that......
Russell - 11
Jones - 10
Heinsohn - 8
Jones - 8
Sanders - 8
Havlicek - 8
Loscutoff - 7
Ramsey - 7
Horry - 7
Kareem - 6
Jordan - 6
Pippen - 6
Pollard - 5
Martin - 5
Siegfried - 5
Nelson - 5
Cooper - 5
Rodman - 5
Harper - 5
Kerr - 5
Fisher - 5
Magic - 5
Mikan - 5
Kobe - 5
Mikkelsen - 4
Saul - 4
Sharman - 4
Wilkes - 4
Parish - 4
Rambis - 4
Salley - 4
Perdue - 4
H. Grant - 4
Shaq - 4
Duncan - 4
Ouch................. that would all of the sudden throw the likes of Lebron, Bird, Wilt outside of TOP 50 of all time.............. and even throw Jordan outside TOP 10..........
But hey..... its only Rings that matter right??????? Isnt that right Deuce? Its all about ringzzzzzzzzzzzzzz baby......
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04-18-2012, 02:03 AM #42College superstar
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
Pauk...half the achievements you posted are nitpick stats. Originally Posted by pauk
i expect better from you.
No i don't.
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04-18-2012, 02:04 AM #43NBA Legend
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
I wonder what would happen if Lebron doesn't come back to the finals?
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04-18-2012, 02:06 AM #44College superstar
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
He never said rings are the only thing that matter. If you knew anything about basketball you'd know that Robery Horry's 7 rings don't have the same value as Kobe Bryant's 5 rings Originally Posted by pauk
or Steve Kerr's 5 rings don't have the same value as Jordan's 6 rings
These players played different roles on their respective teams.
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04-18-2012, 02:07 AM #45Kobe Apostle
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Re: If LBJ won two titles, where would he rank all-time?
No, you can't handle the truth kid. Originally Posted by pauk
The top 10 player of all-time:
Jordan
Russell
Kareem
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan
Hakeem
Wilt
All have 2 rings minimum, along with 2 Finals MVPs (Russell and WIlt would have atleast 2 if the award existed before '69)
Why is the general consensus 10 greatest player of alltime have atleast 2 championships?
Because the great players win, and in order to be the best, you have to win.
And comparing Horry's or Kerr's rings to those superstars shows your intelligence.
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