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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    we also has to remember, it was Shaq hogging the defensive assignments of sixers, nets, pacers in NBA finals. They triple team Shaq & literally left kobe standing to take the jumpshots.

    still Kobe sucked. Its the MJ wannabe complex kobe has that destroyed his FG%. On the bright side, he did shoot 51.4% eventually which should've been much higher having Shaq on your side.
    As the MJ comparison has come in

    MJs numbers are

    FGs 438 of 911 for 48.079034 fg%
    42 3s made
    FTs 245 of 315 for .777777778
    TS% .554020579

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    Who was the 2nd best team in 2001?
    shouldn't kobe be able to shoot higher FG% against worse teams in the finals?

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    .412 fg (333/808)
    .848 ft (223/263)
    .314 3pt (48/153)
    .442 efg
    .507 ts

    As for efficiency, 2002 Finals was the only one Kobe was great.
    .514 fg - .545 3pt - .806 ft - .557 efg - .623 ts

    If we exclude 2002 Finals;
    .408 fg (297/728)
    .855 ft (194/227)
    .296 3pt (42/142)
    .437 efg
    .501 ts
    Last edited by Odinn; 06-09-2012 at 07:42 PM.

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Owl
    As the MJ comparison has come in

    MJs numbers are

    FGs 438 of 911 for 48.079034 fg%
    42 3s made
    FTs 245 of 315 for .777777778
    TS% .554020579
    are you sure your math is right, should be around 58%

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Owl
    As the MJ comparison has come in

    MJs numbers are

    FGs 438 of 911 for 48.079034 fg%
    42 3s made
    FTs 245 of 315 for .777777778
    TS% .554020579
    MJ was hogging defensive assigments of opposition in Finals just like Shaq.

    That 48%FG for Finals is GOAT for a 6'6" perimeter player drawing triple teams every FGA in the FINALS.

    They literally played Pippen 1-on-1 all 6 NBA Finals.

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Odinn
    .412 fg (333/808)
    .848 ft (223/263)
    .314 3pt (48/153)
    .442 efg
    .507 ts

    As for efficiency, 2002 Finals was the only one Kobe was great.
    .514 fg - .545 3pt - .806 ft - .557 efg - .623 ts

    If we exclude 2002 Finals;
    .408 fg (297/728)
    .855 ft (194/227)
    .296 3pt (42/142)
    .437 efg
    .501 ts
    can you calculate for MJ's 6 finals, and separately for the 1st 3peat and 2nd 3 peat

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Derivative
    are you sure your math is right, should be around 58%
    Calculate it for yourself but I used the same excel formula as for Kobe. What do you think is wrong?
    Anyways it's total finals points/(2x(fga+(.44xfta)))

    fga is total finals field goal attempts
    FTA is total finals free throw attempts

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Derivative
    are you sure your math is right, should be around 58%
    1176 points - 911 fga - 320 fta

    1176 / ( 2 * ( 911 + ( 320 * 0.44 ) ) ) = .5590416428978893

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Derivative
    can you calculate for MJ's 6 finals, and separately for the 1st 3peat and 2nd 3 peat
    I'll let Odinn field that as you asked him but the first three series will be more impressive as he has significantly higher fg%. Later series MJ got to the line more but not enough to offset the (relative) fall in fg%.

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Derivative
    can you calculate for MJ's 6 finals, and separately for the 1st 3peat and 2nd 3 peat
    1st threepeat;
    617 points - 466 fga - 128 fta
    617 / ( 2 * ( 466 + ( 128 * 0.44 ) ) ) = .5906340940419666

    2nd threepeat;
    559 points - 445 fga - 192 fta
    559 / ( 2 * ( 445 + ( 192 * 0.44 ) ) ) = .5278764070408703

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Odinn
    1st threepeat;
    617 points - 466 fga - 128 fta
    617 / ( 2 * ( 466 + ( 128 * 0.44 ) ) ) = .5906340940419666

    2nd threepeat;
    559 points - 445 fga - 192 fta
    559 / ( 2 * ( 445 + ( 192 * 0.44 ) ) ) = .5278764070408703
    dang MJ in his prime was godlike

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    we also has to remember, it was Shaq hogging the defensive assignments of sixers, nets, pacers in NBA finals. They triple team Shaq & literally left kobe standing to take the jumpshots.

    still Kobe sucked. Its the MJ wannabe complex kobe has that destroyed his FG%. On the bright side, he did shoot 51.4% eventually which should've been much higher having Shaq on your side.
    possibly top 5 most bullshit post i've ever seen on ish

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Quote Originally Posted by Quizno
    possibly top 5 most bullshit post i've ever seen on ish
    I do not like that guy but he has a point about that. Shaq was one of the most doubled player in the history if not the most. It was a lot easier to get wide open if you had Shaq by your side.

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Jordan in '93 ECF vs NY Knicks: 40.0 FG%

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._1993_ECF.html

    NY had a defensive rating below 100, like the teams Kobe faced in the Finals

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    Default Re: Does Kobe have the lowest FG% in finals ever for a star player??

    Kobe has also NEVER gone past the 1st round w/o Shaq or Pau. He failed 2x and missed the playoffs 1x.

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