Top 10 players of all time?

[edhemsoccer]

I'm curious to see what other people think.
Criteria should be:
how good the player was at his peak
consistency
abilities/talent
championships (extra as the best player)
ability in the clutch ( would you trust him in a do-or-die game?)
was he a difference maker on good teams?

My list has to be:

1. Michael Jordan

2. Bill Russell

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Magic Johnson

5. Larry Bird

6. Wilt Chamberlain

7. Tim Duncan

8. Kobe Bryant

9. Jerry West

10. Oscar Robertson


I can never decide between Oscar and Shaq, I'll just give it to Oscar.

[talkingconch]

Oscar Robertson??


Bill Russell isn't No. 2

[pauk]

I'm curious to see what other people think.
Criteria should be:
how good the player was at his peak
consistency
abilities/talent
championships (extra as the best player)
ability in the clutch ( would you trust him in a do-or-die game?)
was he a difference maker on good teams?

My list has to be:

1. Michael Jordan

2. Bill Russell

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Magic Johnson

5. Larry Bird

6. Wilt Chamberlain

7. Tim Duncan

8. Kobe Bryant

9. Jerry West

10. Shaquille O'Neal

he doesnt belong there higher than shaq or duncan..... thats the most stupid rank ive seen in my entire life all in all..... you did another stupid thing also... you totally ditched oscar ****ing robertson.....

which in essence puts kobe where he belongs... at #11-#15 somewhere...

[talkingconch]

Yeah I think shaq should be higher than Kobe, Not sure about Duncan being higher though

[edhemsoccer]

Bill Russel isn't No. 2

Great argument by the way.

Bill Russell won 11 titles. He was the defensive presence of those title winning teams. He was the best defensive player of all time. A complete game changer.
Russell's teams were 10-0 in deciding game 5's and game 7's. At his peak, he consistently slowed down Wilt Chamberlain in the playoffs. What more do you want?

[edhemsoccer]

You know, instead of complaining about my list, you could make your own list...

[kaiiu]

Kobe ahead of Shaq

edit: Your list doe, cant hate

[pauk]

here is how it should look like... watch and learn...


1. MICHAEL JORDAN
2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
3. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
4. BILL RUSSELL
5. MAGIC JOHNSON
6. LARRY BIRD
7. OSCAR ROBERTSON
8. SHAQUILLE ONEAL
9. TIM DUNCAN
10. HAKEEM OLAJUWON

ONLY AFTER THEM DOES KOBE BELONG AND ARGUABLY... FIGHTING FOR THAT #11 SPOT WITH JULIUS ERVING AND JERRY WEST..............

[d.bball.guy]

No Shaq = retarded

[pauk]

Kobe ahead of Shaq

edit: Your list doe, cant hate

wtf???? arent you a kobe ******ger and a moron? shouldnt you put kobe at #1?

[kaiiu]

Michael
Kareem
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Russell
Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
Oscar

[edhemsoccer]

People, Shaq got swept out of the playoffs 6 times. 6 TIMES! He was a liability in late game situations because of his terrible free throw shooting. His decline also hurts his legacy. Also Shaq could have been much better than what he was. He coasted through seasons at times. He could have been a top 5 of all time, but he was never motivated to do so.

[edhemsoccer]

here is how it should look like... watch and learn...


1. MICHAEL JORDAN
2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
3. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
4. BILL RUSSELL
5. MAGIC JOHNSON
6. LARRY BIRD
7. OSCAR ROBERTSON
8. SHAQUILLE ONEAL
9. TIM DUNCAN
10. HAKEEM OLAJUWON

ONLY AFTER THEM DOES KOBE BELONG AND ARGUABLY... FIGHTING FOR THAT #11 SPOT WITH JULIUS ERVING AND JERRY WEST..............

I just don't get why Wilt is ahead of Russell? WHY?

[Round Mound]

I`ll go with what happened on court and statistical proof of level of play such as PER, EFF +/- and Shot Made/Missed Diferential

1-MJ
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Bird
6-Magic
7-Hakeem
8-Barkley
9-Duncan
10-Big 0

[edhemsoccer]

I`ll go with what happened on court and statistical proof of level of play such as PER, EFF +/- and Shot Made/Missed Diferential

1-MJ
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Big 0
5-Bird
6-Magic
7-Hakeem
8-Barkley
9-Duncan
10-Baylor

Very nice of you to use your own criteria. No Bill Russell completely kills your list.