#54 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[fsvr54]

This is getting ridiculous at this point. We should just stop at 53.

[colts19]

Reggie Miller. His great moments in the play offs do mean more than all star voting in my mind.

[crisoner]

This is getting ridiculous at this point. We should just stop at 53.

I kind of like this right now.

We are not talking about the mainstream players to say.
Nobody has agendas just remembering the other great players at this point.

[crisoner]

Dang. Reggie got some serious game. That is a nice looking babe Reggie is chilling with.

Reggie's ex wife was dope as well....



The belly button tat Reggie got has to go...no homo

[crisoner]

I got Reggie Miller now for what he did to NYK alone.

Oh shoot...found this crazy article about that girl with Reggie!!!

http://www.oddjack.com/2009/former-n...omen-08-10.php

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[KG215]

Did not know Reggie Miller had a bellybutton tattoo. Thought that was something reserved for girls, and even then it's an odd spot for one.

[BlackVVaves]

Oh please! Ray Allen was in a weaker SG era which allowed him extra all-star selections, Reggie had MUCH nastier competition at the SG spot, he had to battle that all-star spot with Michael Jordan, Clyde Drexler, Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Dale Ellis, Joe Dumars, Dan Majerle, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston, Reggie Lewis and so on... all players that would have more or less kept Ray Allen out of the all-star game at certain seasons..... the last time Ray Allen was selected to the all-star game was 2011, averaging 16 ppg... no way in hell he would have been in all-star during Reggies era... not to mention Reggie would have been another guy that would had battled that spot with Ray Allen.......... Ray Allen had majority of time only Kobe Bryant / Dwyane Wade to battle with..... who else? And its not because he was so good, but because the caliber of SGs were extremly much weaker overall in 00s and today...... During Reggies time even guys like Drazen Petrovic (who averaged 22-3-4 @ 52% FG, 45% 3PT, 87% FT) went completely unnoticed in the all-star selection department...

2nd of all.... Ray Allen was not the player Reggie Miller was.... the intangibles, killer instinct, legacy, longevity, consistency and character which no on paper awards or statistics can measure is what sepparates Reggie from Ray.... The name Reggie Miller is synonymous with clutch...... He was a guy that lived for the biggest moments and made the biggest moments....

As Reggie Miller put it: "You might make your first 10 shots and everything is going great, but when the game is on the line, those other 10 don't mean anything."

There are 6 things he is in argument for being the most successful at:

1. Shooter
2. Clutch performer
3. Competitor
4. Greatest Pacer ever
5. Greatest of the ball/screen player ever
6. Work Ethic

Reggie’s loyalty to the Pacers organization is one of the things people often overlook. Only John Stockton and Karl Malone (with Utah) played more games with one franchise than Reggie did with Indiana...

Reggie played 1,389 games. He owned that Indiana city, even more so than Peyton Manning did during his tenure there... He was the best perimeter shooter that this game has ever seen and one of the greatest clutch shooters of all-time.... He knew he was a marked man and he relished it, especially in the big stage....

Over the span of his 18 years with Indiana he has hit some kindof clutch shot in every close game... If there is any gamewinner count out there that dates way back dont be surprised if Reggie Miller as at #1 on that list.... If the basketball term "clutch" was in the dictionary then Reggie Millers picture would be next to it....

He was also a nasty competitor with the confidence of GOD and legendary trashtalking (which he always backed up) which created historic NBA drama and memories.... He could get into peoples heads like no other and once he did he would play mind tricks, he was even the only one that ever got under Jordans skin and not only once....

Jordan said: “I really don’t dislike playing against anybody in the league, but playing Reggie Miller drives me nuts.”

There is a reason this hall of famer was Michael Jordans biggest nemesis at the SG spot....

While many players hated Reggie during their playing days, they all respected him. Kobe Bryant said Reggie was the toughest player he has ever had to guard. I’m sure there are plenty of others that would agree........ and keep in mind that Kobe has played against Michael Jordan...

A Hall of Fame career is about more than how many Championship rings you have. Robert Horry has seven of them, and Adam Morrison has two. I’ll leave it at that. Who is to say Dan Marino is less of a player because he never won a Super Bowl? Sometimes people need to take a step back and look at the whole product, instead of just focusing on one piece of it.....

Reggie at his prime would have torched Ray Allen and broke that kid down mentally all the time... and after that game he would be ready to face other shooters who were even better than Ray Allen as competitors or shooters aswell like Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Glen Rice, Drazen Petrovic, Dale Ellis etc...

During Reggies time Ray Allen would have not even been honored as the shooter he is/was... those players came in a dozen at Reggies time (and many were even better shooters than Ray)....... he would battle that honor with Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Dell Curry, Dale Ellis, Mark Price, Drazen Petrovic, Jeff Hornacek just to name a few....... today he got only what? Steve Nash? Dirk maybe? lol...........

Ray and Reggie are similar in the way they shoot/play (for at least 3 quarters and regular season) as SGs, but they are different imo, the intangibles/killer instinct/mind Reggie possessed make them two COMPLETELY different players.... and something which in my opinion makes Reggie better than Ray Allen.... its popular to say Ray Allen was a better ballhandler, passer but that there is nowhere close in significant difference, i mean not something that made him impact the game better than what Reggies intangibles/killer instinct/mind did.....

Seriously, Ray Allen is starting to get overrated............. hell even the screen/of the ball tricks/moves is what he himself said to have studied/stolen from Reggie.... he lives his entire life just to throw as many 3's as possible just to get that record at least, he had Reggie and that record in mind all the time, immediately running to him and emotionally hugging him at the scorers table once he broke that record..... Reggie is the man, Ray Allen is the pupile...

Just want to say, you're on some off-the-grid drugs if you think Reggie Miller, who was never even close to being the best at his position, let alone best player in the league...AND never displayed even remotely consistent domination...owned Indiana more than PEYTON MANNING, who was the best quarterback in the league for much of the 2000s, has 3 MVPs to show for it, and brought Indiana a CHAMPIONSHIP.

Seriously? I understand you're trying to make a point for Reggie over Allen, but don't embellish the truth, or flat out revise history. Reggie isn't even Top 5 All time at the SG position, while Manning will likely retire as Top 3 QBs in NFL history.

I thought I read somewhere that you reside in Europe somewhere? It truly shows in that statement, because not many people who lived in America during the 90s and 2000s would ever say Reggie Miller meant more to Indiana than Peyton Manning did.

That just bothered me, just wanted to say something. Hope I helped educate ya there.

Carry on.

[BlackVVaves]

Really? Best player on the 2010 Lakers? And then you use "Made the cover of the NBA video game in Spain" to "bolster" his resume? How in the hell does making the cover of a video game make someone a better basketball player than someone else? That has to be the lamest attempt I've ever seen at trying to make a case for a player. Good trolling job, though.

And that aptitude for stupidity is precisely why he's atop my distinguished Ignore list.

[Kblaze8855]

His great moments in the play offs do mean more than all star voting in my mind.

What great moments might those be? When he hit that game winner in 97 and lost the series playing like Cuttino mobley in game 7? When he had the 25 in the 4th vs the Knicks and lost? When he hit that 40 footer vs the Nets and lost? When they beat the Knicks with Jordan already having been taken out and then played the magic and had 12 points on 38% shooting in game 7 to lose? Was it the next year when...once again with no Jordan in the way...he put up 3-18 shooting for 8 points as Alan Houston sent him home? Was it one of the 8 or 9 times he lost in the first round(was hurt one year vs I wanna say...the Hawks)?

Reggie Miller had moments ESPN makes people remember. He didnt actually....do...very much....with those moments.

The coaches were not making Reggie an all star because they did not think he was that good. At least two HOF coaches are on record saying he wasnt the best player on his own teams in his prime......

And really...

There were a lot of guys people put over Reggie on his own team:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...aylor_mailbag/

Jalen Rose for the Most Improved Player award because he went from being a spark off the bench to being the best player on the best team in the Eastern Conference.

And that was from 2000.

I remember plenty of people(George Karl being one I believe...when he was the sonics coach) calling Rik smits better than Reggie.

Dude just suddenly got respected in retrospect in 2002 and people forgot the previous 15 years where he was a nobody 90% of the time.

Never has a player done less to be so known.

At least Pistol Pete was one of the best players in the league.

Reggie had teammates, coaches, and long time basketball people flat out calling him worse than a role player. But 20 years pass and hes better than guys his team would have traded 2 of him for.

Much clearer view from decades later I guess.

[DaHeezy]

I'm kind of surprised Chief hasn't had a sniff

[Fudge]

Ray Allen

[Kblaze8855]

I feel like more people had Parish ahead of Mchale at the time than they do now. Not sure why. I remember a lot of people being on some "Heart and soul of the team" kinda talk about Robert.

[Legends66NBA7]

Since there has been a mention of peak play in a lot of these threads, I do wonder if Neil Johnston should get a vote or two coming up. Not saying he deserves to be mentioned now, but he should be in the running and not get overlooked.

[Fudge]

I feel like more people had Parish ahead of Mchale at the time than they do now. Not sure why. I remember a lot of people being on some "Heart and soul of the team" kinda talk about Robert.

Completely forgot about Parish. I'll leave my vote as Ray and take Parish at 55.

[Freedom Kid7]

Hal Greer. Complete game, solid teammate, great longevity, etc.