The biggest reason why Wade/Lebron have trouble co-existing

[Smoke117]

2011 happened because Wade didnt want or couldnt fully perish to the 2nd fiddle role, especially not in the Finals when he all of the sudden went in the post conference (while Lebron sat right next to him) and i quote: "This is my team, i am the leader, i have to lead by example"... it caused Lebron to be more passive than he was the entire season (including playoffs) where Wade was actually more of a 2nd fiddle, took only 13-14 FGA in that Finals... it turned Lebron to a 2nd fiddle in the Finals all of the sudden, Lebron didnt mind it at all as Wade had it going, but then came the clutch time where neither could close out........

2012 happened because Wade approved (and verbally welcomed) the 2nd fiddle role completely and i quote: "Lebron is our best player, for us to be better Lebron has to lead the way, i dont mind taking the backseat", Wade was very comfortable playing that 2nd fiddle role and gave Lebron the full greenlight......... Lebron did the rest.....

What happened in 2012 should have happened in 2011.... They co-exist today very nicely as long as Wade keeps his end of that bargain Miami Heat will continue to be this successful... because what he said and everybody said is very true... that Miami Heat can go as far as only Lebron James can take them....

Because the fact that Wade was injured had no affect on his play this past season...

[Y2Gezee]

In order to fully maximize the Heat offense, they need a pg to run the show. Wade and Lebron would need to continue to work on catching and shooting and off ball movement...said pg would need to be able to shoot 3s also.

[Young X]

Not to mention him taking even more shots in the 2nd round than he did in the finals.

Exactly, Wade also took MORE shots in the 2012 Finals than he did in the 2011 Finals.

Wade's FGA in 2011 Finals: 18
Wade's FGA in 2012 Finals: 18.4

[RRR3]

In order to fully maximize the Heat offense, they need a pg to run the show. Wade and Lebron would need to continue to work on catching and shooting and off ball movement...said pg would need to be able to shoot 3s also.

No, not at all. LeBron and Wade need the ball in their hands a lot, a PG like Chalmers who can space the floor and isn't a dominant ballhandler works much better for the Heat.

[Whoah10115]

They should really try some running variation on the triangle offense.

[jlip]

thought this thread was 2yrs old when i opened it

This

[PJR]

They should really try some running variation on the triangle offense.

They actually do at times.

[lilgodfather1]

They should really try some running variation on the triangle offense.

It's funny that you said that because they do run slight variations of it at times between Wade/Bron/Bosh.

[TheCorporation]

Back-to-back Finals appearances, one 4-1 dominant win over a seemingly unbeatable team. (Should have been 2 ships but LBJ disappeared)

[LakersReign]

That being wrong is only a desperate wish... especially if you are a Lebron hater (or a butthurt Cavs fan) where only one thing is not wrong "Lebron choked"..... when Lebron actually didnt play bad, he shot 48% FG, led both teams in assists and rebounds basically aswell (with Chandler)... he was only passive like HELL, like ive never seen before, he took like what 14 FGA in that Finals? He was facilitating like a hot potato... and why is that? Read my post again above, especially that quote from Wade in 2011 Finals... Lebron didnt mind, Wade had it going and they were actually doing fine, but then came the 4th quarter... which was the ultimate reason to them losing the Finals... neither of them could close out games enough...

...and oh Lebron robbed Wade of FMVP? No... considering my assessment its actually Wade who robbed Lebron/Miami of a Championship because he didnt want to give Lebron the greenlight he openly gave to him in 2012.... he turned Lebron into a sidekick in the Finals, into a true 2nd fiddle, because thats how Lebron was playing... he didnt play bad, he didnt shoot bad, he only facilitated and took few shots... like a true Scottie Pippen would do.... and thats NOT LEBRON.... Wade knew he made a mistake in that Finals and changed his mindset in 2012, you dont see him go around and say anymore "I have to take charge, I am the leader of this team, this team goes as far as only I CAN TAKE THEM"..... thats basically exactly what he said/meant after the 2011 Finals Game 2 loss in the press conference while Lebron sat right next to him.... Lebron was basically "OK... lets see how that goes"..


Lebron played bad, you can say whatever you want, BUT THERE WAS A BIG REASON FOR IT........... the "He couldnt handle the pressure he had that year" i dont buy, thats absolutely hilarious pure bullshit...

2011 was simply a huge chemistry / co-exist problems between Lebron & Wade, anything from trying to figure out how to complement eachothers games... to self-centered decisions.... and it showed up at its fullest effect at the worst time...

Little ret**ded child(pauk) please

I guess the thought never occurred to you that without Wade/Bosh, Lebron "king next MJ" James sorry a** would've never been in the Finals, much less 2 years, back to back....huh? The sad part is, not only does he intentionally post stupid stuff like this, but STILL fully expects reasonable NBA fans to take him seriously

[plowking]

2011 happened because Wade didnt want or couldnt fully perish to the 2nd fiddle role, especially not in the Finals when he all of the sudden went in the post conference (while Lebron sat right next to him) and i quote: "This is my team, i am the leader, i have to lead by example"... it caused Lebron to be more passive than he was the entire season (including playoffs) where Wade was actually more of a 2nd fiddle, took only 13-14 FGA in that Finals... it turned Lebron to a 2nd fiddle in the Finals all of the sudden, Lebron didnt mind it at all as Wade had it going, but then came the clutch time where neither could close out........

2012 happened because Wade approved (and verbally welcomed) the 2nd fiddle role completely and i quote: "Lebron is our best player, for us to be better Lebron has to lead the way, i dont mind taking the backseat", Wade was very comfortable playing that 2nd fiddle role and gave Lebron the full greenlight......... Lebron did the rest.....

What happened in 2012 should have happened in 2011.... They co-exist today very nicely as long as Wade keeps his end of that bargain Miami Heat will continue to be this successful... because what he said and everybody said is very true... that Miami Heat can go as far as only Lebron James can take them....

You're an idiot. Seriously.

I'm a Heat fan, not a Lebron hater, so you have no resort or out when I say this; Lebron f*cked up, and lost us the championship in 2011. There is no, if, and, but or maybe. Wade is exactly 5% responsible. Wade was clutch, he did his job. It was Lebron who sucked.

Once again, you're an idiot.

[EnoughSaid]

So Wade had the BALLS to shut up and cheer his friend on while trying his best, while Bron got all upset and passive? So in this situation, LeBron comes off as a bitch.

[Legends66NBA7]

2011 happened because Wade didnt want or couldnt fully perish to the 2nd fiddle role, especially not in the Finals when he all of the sudden went in the post conference (while Lebron sat right next to him) and i quote: "This is my team, i am the leader, i have to lead by example"... it caused Lebron to be more passive than he was the entire season (including playoffs) where Wade was actually more of a 2nd fiddle, took only 13-14 FGA in that Finals... it turned Lebron to a 2nd fiddle in the Finals all of the sudden, Lebron didnt mind it at all as Wade had it going, but then came the clutch time where neither could close out........

2012 happened because Wade approved (and verbally welcomed) the 2nd fiddle role completely and i quote: "Lebron is our best player, for us to be better Lebron has to lead the way, i dont mind taking the backseat", Wade was very comfortable playing that 2nd fiddle role and gave Lebron the full greenlight......... Lebron did the rest.....

What happened in 2012 should have happened in 2011.... They co-exist today very nicely as long as Wade keeps his end of that bargain Miami Heat will continue to be this successful... because what he said and everybody said is very true... that Miami Heat can go as far as only Lebron James can take them....

Didn't you make a thread about a year or so ago... that you were glad the Heat didn't win because that would have meant Wade would win Finals MVP ?

I just can't read this and take you seriously, dude.

[Jax]

So Wade had the BALLS to shut up and cheer his friend on while trying his best, while Bron got all upset and passive? So in this situation, LeBron comes off as a bitch.

It just means Lebron needed to be active and with the ball at all times for his game to work. He's not a shooter and until this last season(I'd say playoffs) he was shooting too much, Spo is still an horrible coach, Lebron had no business shooting so much(Pacers, Celtics), he just needs to attack the basket until someone stops him constantly. It was infuriating as a Heat fan to see Bron fail so much and force the jumper. Wade has no problem taking over and doing what needs to be done to the best of his ability.

[chazzy]

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