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03-22-2013, 05:38 PM
#1291
Good college starter
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
A-10 doing work, I had Temple as the only A-10 team getting through. Probably because that MWC is so good...oh wait...
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03-22-2013, 06:06 PM
#1292
*****
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by KG215
It's hard to spin it any other way than them being overrated. The MWC was #2 in conference RPI but they're 1-5 in the tournament so far.
How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.
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03-22-2013, 06:07 PM
#1293
NBA Legend
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by JMT
Holy Christ. That's exactly what you're taught to do.
It's amazing that college basketball, which has been premitted to get more and more physical over the years, is going to enforce this ridiculous i nterpretation of a rule.
Yesterday, and I can't recall which game, a guy was driving the lane when a defender basically dove into his extended arm/elbow. Absurd.
That was in the Pitt game. The flagrant rule has been consistently awful all tournament.
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03-22-2013, 06:09 PM
#1294
Knicks all da way
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03-22-2013, 06:22 PM
#1295
7-time NBA All-Star
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by ace23
How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.
I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.
Last edited by KG215; 03-22-2013 at 06:25 PM.
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03-22-2013, 06:27 PM
#1296
Mohamed Bamba
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by ace23
How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.
87-26 against which teams? Of the 5 bids, only 2 wins were against ranked team (UCLA early when they were losing to Cal Poly at home and @Creighton).
The reason why the conference had the #1 RPI (which is a imperfect system) is because their teams manged to play a bunch of bad teams that weren't terrible in the OOC. As the RPI calculates by your record, your opponent's records, and their opponent's records.
So you can cheat the system by playing those 75-150 ranked teams and end up with a very high RPI. Which is what happened this year in the Mountain West, although I'm sure coincidentally as you can't really predict how your opponent's season will go.
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03-22-2013, 06:28 PM
#1297
College superstar
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by KG215
I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.
Have to agree, and I hate terms like "overrated". That ooc record in the regular season is nice, but when it translates to one-and-dones vs what should be overmatched opponents, you're just not that good.
If it walks, quacks and looks like a duck...
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03-22-2013, 06:30 PM
#1298
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
ugh my entire west conference is almost completely ****ed. really gotta root for ohio st to make the final 4.
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03-22-2013, 06:42 PM
#1299
*****
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by IGotACoolStory
The reason why the conference had the #1 RPI (which is a imperfect system) is because their teams manged to play a bunch of bad teams that weren't terrible in the OOC. As the RPI calculates by your record, your opponent's records, and their opponent's records.
So you can cheat the system by playing those 75-150 ranked teams and end up with a very high RPI.
Their OOC schedules were still (by the SOS formula) better than the B1G and Big East's. So I guess those conferences' schools played bad teams? No one cheated anything.
Last edited by ace23; 03-22-2013 at 06:44 PM.
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03-22-2013, 07:07 PM
#1300
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
this starks guy is driving exceptionally well.
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03-22-2013, 07:24 PM
#1301
Life goes on.
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
man kstate and wisconsin losing kind of busted that part of my bracket. Oh well.
still doing ok.
-Smak
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03-22-2013, 07:33 PM
#1302
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
im third in my group but have the second lowest possible points. 4 of my 16 sweet sixteen teams are out, including one that was in the elite 8.
my coinflip bracket is 10 of 24, haha.
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03-22-2013, 07:39 PM
#1303
*****
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Georgetown, along with Pitt, always seems to struggle in the postseason. I have them losing to UF in the Sweet 16.
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03-22-2013, 07:40 PM
#1304
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
Originally Posted by ace23
Georgetown, along with Pitt, always seems to struggle in the postseason. I have them losing to UF in the Sweet 16.
i have the same.
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03-22-2013, 07:44 PM
#1305
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2012/13 Observation Deck
unc is red hot right now. really good play
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