OGT: Nov 21 Toronto Raptors (3-8) vs Charlotte Bobcats (5-4)

[el gringos]

Reading posts here makes me think that if Bargs were to be traded all of the raps problems would be solved. Then I realize that it's the same posters commenting every time a Bargs is being criticized.

Yeah these guys hate him, think he's the reason the team is terrible, want him gone- but want a superstar package to trade him


They'll call Lowry their best player/most valuable piece. Yet want 3 times what they gave for Lowry for someone to get Bargnani

[Qwyjibo]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to el gringos again.

I guess I can wait before giving him more stupidity points.

[Just2McFly]

Yeah these guys hate him, think he's the reason the team is terrible, want him gone- but want a superstar package to trade him


They'll call Lowry their best player/most valuable piece. Yet want 3 times what they gave for Lowry for someone to get Bargnani

I don't necessarily know if that is true, but my biggest fear with Bargs is that he'll get traded. Most of the Rap fans here outside of myself and a few others will celebrate, then Bargs grows into being an All-Star level player. He has that kind of potential.

The thing that I do not like about our offense is that we aren't trying different looks for Bargs. We should be moving one of our biggest mismatches all around the floor.

[Qwyjibo]

then Bargs grows into being an All-Star level player. He has that kind of potential.

It's year 7 and the player is 27 years old! You need to totally forget about the word "potential" in this situation.

[RaininThrees]

It's year 7 and the player is 27 years old! You need to totally forget about the word "potential" in this situation.

Man, agreed.

This is who he is.

[Just2McFly]

It's year 7 and the player is 27 years old! You need to totally forget about the word "potential" in this situation.

Very valid point, always thought he was younger for some reason.

[madmax]

I guess I can wait before giving him more stupidity points.

[Qwyjibo]

Lowry and Valanciunas are so fun to watch and give a ray of hope to this franchise until you realize all the mediocre contracts around them that will prevent this team from adding legit talent to those two guys.

My bitterness when it comes to Colangelo knows no bounds these days.

[Just2McFly]

The Fields contract was the last straw in my opinion.

[RaininThrees]

It's year 7 and the player is 27 years old! You need to totally forget about the word "potential" in this situation.

Good article here on this subject:

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...-by-potential/

[QUOTE]Andrea Bargnani

[Legends66NBA7]

Yeah these guys hate him, think he's the reason the team is terrible, want him gone- but want a superstar package to trade him


They'll call Lowry their best player/most valuable piece. Yet want 3 times what they gave for Lowry for someone to get Bargnani

First of all, I don't "hate" anybody on this team. Very rarely do I even "hate" on a Raptor that leaves a team.

Second, Lowry is very easily the best player on this team. Watch the games. Most valuable piece ? Maybe. Who knows what ceiling is Jonas going to give us, he's very much an instinct player right now, but I can see a lot improvements in his game. And tonight, Val his hitting mid-range jumpers... just think about what else he can possibly do once on offense when his offensive game is polished.

As for Bargnani, he is what he is now. I doubt there's anything else he can possibly give you from his game. I don't "hate" him, he just has to produce a lot more for his billing. I have high standards for him and if he can't get to that level or under performs or even worse... if he doesn't give enough effort on a night to night basis, how can you not put a lot of blame on him ? He is the franchise player, is he not ? Were not comparing him to Landry Fields here.

[RaininThrees]

Things I hate seeing: Big men working hard in the post, getting good position, then not getting the ball.

[Legends66NBA7]

That might have been the most emotion I've seen out of DeRozan.

[knickswin]

I'm kind of glad bargnani is playing like a** this season. that way if amar'e comes back and is useless, that trade is plausible.

I think it'd be a good change of scenery for both of them. amar'e would actually be a nice fit with that team.

[Qwyjibo]

I'm kind of glad bargnani is playing like a** this season. that way if amar'e comes back and is useless, that trade is plausible.

Sure. If the Knicks somehow throw in a lottery pick then yea, I'm sure they could get some team take that anchor of a contract off their hands.