Jesus or Pat Tillman?

[ace23]

after being crucified...he spent an "eternity" in hell paying for our sins

My mom is very devout Christian, and I've never heard that in my life. He died, and he rose on the third day, then went to heaven.

You sure you're not pulling that out of your ass? (Sorry, had to do it.)

[-p.tiddy-]

My mom is very devout Christian, and I've never heard that in my life. He died, and he rose on the third day, then went to heaven.

You sure you're not pulling that out of your ass? (Sorry, had to do it.)

no, not at all...an "eternity" can take place within no time here on Earth, or at least that is how I imagined it when explained to me...

sigh, I'm on my phone or would look for link

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basic...go_to_hell.htm

there

[-p.tiddy-]

I thought that is why it was such a sacrifice...God was willing to send his own son to Hell for us

[Nanners]

lets say that jesus actually went to hell.... then could actually be chilling out with pat tillman right now.

[Nanners]

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basic...go_to_hell.htm

there

is this your source for real? why not get a youtube video or something a little more concrete?

also how do you make a website with a typewriter?

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.letusreason.org/Wf42.htm





I mean what kind of site do you want with this subject, the "OFFICIAL" web site of Jesus?

[-p.tiddy-]

it looks like there is some debate over wether or not he went to hell though...

that's crazy, I always thought it was just known that he did...


it's crazy just how much the Bible is debated...huge details like that aren't clear to everyone

[MMM]

after being crucified...he spent an "eternity" in hell paying for our sins

Jesus was not crucified nor did he die

[-p.tiddy-]

Jesus was not crucified nor did he die

because he wasn't a real person? is that where you are going with that?

that isn't being debated in here, that is another thread...another 100 previous threads in here

[DonDadda59]

Didn't Jesus go to hell to take all the righteous souls with him to Heaven after the crucifiction? Which begs the question- if the only way to Heaven is through Christ and his sacrifice... did everyone go to hell before that happened, no matter how well they lived their lives? Seems like a major flaw in the great cosmic plan that Jehovah slept on for a bit

Then he throws his own son under the bus to fix the problem. That's some shitty Universe-running and parenting right there.

[MMM]

because he wasn't a real person? is that where you are going with that?

that isn't being debated in here, that is another thread...another 100 previous threads in here

there is more then one perspective on Jesus, Why is the christian view the right one????

[miller-time]

Didn't Jesus go to hell to take all the righteous souls with him to Heaven after the crucifiction? Which begs the question- if the only way to Heaven is through Christ and his sacrifice... did everyone go to hell before that happened, no matter how well they lived their lives? Seems like a major flaw in the great cosmic plan that Jehovah slept on for a bit

Then he throws his own son under the bus to fix the problem. That's some shitty Universe-running and parenting right there.

From my understanding I think they were judged on their adherence to the commandments. Also I've been told that the concept of Hell isn't mentioned in the old testament (but I could be wrong about that). Even if you haven't heard of Jesus today I think you are just judged on your deeds. Which reminds me of this joke.

The eskimo asks the Priest, "If I didn't know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"

"No, not if you didn't know." replied the priest.

Angrily, the eskimo replied, "Then why did you tell me?"

[Dolphin]

From a purely philosophical standpoint, I don't think there's a bigger sacrifice than accepting the finality of your life knowing that you have the power to prevent it. To know you have this great power, to know your father has "forsaken" you and to not say "F this BS, I'm getting outta here", but to accept your fate.

Also, I haven't read the Bible in forever, but did Jesus know he was going to rise on the third day? I don't remember him having knowledge of this. If he didn't, it weakens the argument that since he rose on the third day, he didn't really make a sacrifice. A sacrifice is as much a state of mind and action, as it is an end result.

All of this combined seems like some major bravery and strength.

[Edwin]

Also, I haven't read the Bible in forever, but did Jesus know he was going to rise on the third day?

Yes, there's some verses in Matthew 27 where Jesus is talking and He says or he points out He will rise on the third day.