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Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Purely stat wise Malone DESERVED THE MVP AWARD IN 97. His stats, per, whatever you want to bring up were better. I also don't remember Karl Malaone playing with a Scottie Pippen on his team either. Stock was grreat, but he was no Pippen by 97.
Either way, Malone absolutely derserved that MVP AWARD.
Personally, I think the media got the awards backwards in '97 and '98. Jordan should've won in '97, Malone in '98.
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Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
This has been done a million times, but what the hell....
Here are some I'd change.
2011- Rose (Howard)
2006- Nash (Kobe)
2001- Iverson (Shaq)
1999- Malone (Duncan)
1997- Malone (Jordan)
1993- Barkley (Hakeem)
1990- Magic (Jordan)
1988- Jordan (Bird)
1981- Erving (Kareem)
1979- Moses (Kareem)
1973- Cowens (Kareem)
1970- Reed (Kareem)
1969- Unseld (Reed)
There are some others I'm kind of undecided of either way. This would have given Kareem 9-10 MVPs(I'm unsure about '76 since the Lakers were 40-42)
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Local High School Star
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Rose getting the MVP was just a punishment to lebron for making the decision
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Big Booty Hoes!!
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by thabisyo
Rose getting the MVP was just a punishment to lebron for making the decision
Forget LeBron. He's only 1 of 6 players who where clearly ahead of Rose in 2011.
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Good High School Starter
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Charles Barkley deserved that 1990 MVP.
Nash 05 - (Shaq)
Nash 06 - (Kobe)
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Local High School Star
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by NumberSix
Forget LeBron. He's only 1 of 6 players who where clearly ahead of Rose in 2011.
to make things worse, he goes and chokes in the ECF
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Local High School Star
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Generally, I'd say that the voters do a pretty decent job of voting for the most valuable player. Rarely do I see a player win for which there isn't at least a strong argument for that player. However, there are certain years where, imo, a more valuable player existed that didn't get the selection. Hindsight is 20/20, and can be a somewhat difficult thing to ignore, but I'll do my best. Bolded are the years that I would change.
1956 - Pettit (Arizin)
1957 - Cousy (Pettit)
1958 - Russell (Pettit)
1959 - Pettit (Russell)
1960 - Chamberlain (Russell)
1961 - Russell
1962 - Russell
1963 - Russell
1964 - Robertson (Russell)
1965 - Russell
1966 - Chamberlain
1967 - Chamberlain
1968 - Chamberlain
1969 - Unseld (Russell)
1970 - Reed (West)
1971 - Alcindor
1972 - Abdul-Jabbar (Chamberlain)
1973 - Cowens (Abdul-Jabbar)
1974 - Abdul-Jabbar
1975 - McAdoo (Barry)
1976 - Abdul-Jabbar (Erving)
1977 - Abdul-Jabbar (Walton)
1978 - Walton
1979 - Malone (Abdul-Jabbar)
1980 - Abdul-Jabbar
1981 - Erving (Bird)
1982 - Malone
1983 - Malone
1984 - Bird
1985 - Bird
1986 - Bird
1987 - Johnson
1988 - Jordan (Bird)
1989 - Johnson (Jordan)
1990 - Johnson (Jordan)
1991 - Jordan
1992 - Jordan
1993 - Barkley (Jordan)
1994 - Olajuwon
1995 - Robinson (Olajuwon)
1996 - Jordan
1997 - Malone (Jordan)
1998 - Jordan
1999 - Malone (Duncan)
2000 - O'Neal
2001 - Iverson (O'Neal)
2002 - Duncan (O'Neal)
2003 - Duncan
2004 - Garnett
2005 - Nash (Duncan)
2006 - Nash (Bryant)
2007 - Nowitzki (Bryant)
2008 - Bryant
2009 - James
2010 - James
2011 - Rose (James)
2012 - James
Looking back at my selections, there are a few curious results that I hadn't noticed when going year by year and making my selections. For instance, I stripped Magic down to just one mvp, and gave Bird an extra 2, yet I think Magic was the better player of the two. Most of that coincidence is attributable to timing I think, or maybe I have some things I need to reconsider.
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I am better than you
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by DatAsh
Generally, I'd say that the voters do a pretty decent job of voting for the most valuable player. Rarely do I see a player win for which there isn't at least a strong argument for that player. However, there are certain years where, imo, a more valuable player existed that didn't get the selection. Hindsight is 20/20, and can be a somewhat difficult thing to ignore, but I'll do my best. Bolded are the years that I would change.
1956 - Pettit (Arizin)
1957 - Cousy (Pettit)
1958 - Russell (Pettit)
1959 - Pettit (Russell)
1960 - Chamberlain (Russell)
1961 - Russell
1962 - Russell
1963 - Russell
1964 - Robertson (Russell)
1965 - Russell
1966 - Chamberlain
1967 - Chamberlain
1968 - Chamberlain
1969 - Unseld (Russell)
1970 - Reed (West)
1971 - Alcindor
1972 - Abdul-Jabbar (Chamberlain)
1973 - Cowens (Abdul-Jabbar)
1974 - Abdul-Jabbar
1975 - McAdoo (Barry)
1976 - Abdul-Jabbar (Erving)
1977 - Abdul-Jabbar (Walton)
1978 - Walton
1979 - Malone (Abdul-Jabbar)
1980 - Abdul-Jabbar
1981 - Erving (Bird)
1982 - Malone
1983 - Malone
1984 - Bird
1985 - Bird
1986 - Bird
1987 - Johnson
1988 - Jordan (Bird)
1989 - Johnson (Jordan)
1990 - Johnson (Jordan)
1991 - Jordan
1992 - Jordan
1993 - Barkley (Jordan)
1994 - Olajuwon
1995 - Robinson (Olajuwon)
1996 - Jordan
1997 - Malone (Jordan)
1998 - Jordan
1999 - Malone (Duncan)
2000 - O'Neal
2001 - Iverson (O'Neal)
2002 - Duncan (O'Neal)
2003 - Duncan
2004 - Garnett
2005 - Nash (Duncan)
2006 - Nash (Bryant)
2007 - Nowitzki (Bryant)
2008 - Bryant
2009 - James
2010 - James
2011 - Rose (James)
2012 - James
Looking back at my selections, there are a few curious results that I hadn't noticed when going year by year and making my selections. For instance, I stripped Magic down to just one mvp, and gave Bird an extra 2, yet I think Magic was the better player of the two. Most of that coincidence is attributable to timing I think, or maybe I have some things I need to reconsider.
Alright list, but you're missing Perkins. He should have at least 5 MVPS.
Better luck next time, kid.
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College superstar
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
1990- Magic won, should have been Barkley
2006- Nash won, should have been Kobe
There have been other years where someone deserved the award over the winner, but '90 and '06 were the two years where runner up deserved MVP much more than the actual winner.
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Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Kobe should have at least 3 mvps. 2006, 2007, 2008 for sure.
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College superstar
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by BeanBryant
Kobe should have at least 3 mvps. 2006, 2007, 2008 for sure.
He did win it in '08. '06 he definitely deserved it. '07, Dirk and LeBron had better cases.
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I am better than you
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by BeanBryant
Kobe should have at least 3 mvps. 2006, 2007, 2008 for sure.
Paul was better than string bean in 08
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Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by D.J.
He did win it in '08. '06 he definitely deserved it. '07, Dirk and LeBron had better cases.
Definitely not Lebron in 2007. Lebron had a down year that season. I thought Kobe was clearly better than Lebron in 2006, and to a lesser extent in 2008, but the gap between the 2 was easily the biggest in 2007 out of those 3 years.
Lebron didn't have any real case for MVP in 2007.
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Proves idiots wrong
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Nash's 2 MVPs over Shaq / Lebron
Iverson over Shaq
Rose over Lebron
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College superstar
Re: Most Undeserved MVP selections
Originally Posted by Psycho
Paul was better than string bean in 08
My vote for MVP in '08 was also for CP3, but Kobe winning it was not at all a travesty. The were also 30-16 before Pau arrived, so it's not like Kobe wasn't getting it done without Pau.
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