Tim Duncan: "This will be your league in a little while"

[EwingMan]

LAST pic - Duncan did I play like a role player getting my 5th ????
"you can do it too Bron , I showed you the way"

yeah, shoulda been the man like jordan in his late 30s, putting up .075 WS48, on .468 TS%, leading his team to a sub .500 season.
goat tho

[GimmeThat]

next time I yell out role player,

I want Duncan to be the first person raising his hand, and get over by the coaches for instruction.

[Purch]

next time I yell out role player,

I want Duncan to be the first person raising his hand, and get over by the coaches for instruction.

[Artillery]

Usally when you make a statement like that, you should post the numbers you're referring to.

Here's the career RAPM numbers('97 to '14) for players in post-Jordan era that have played more than 70,000 possessions:

+5.63 - Lebron
+5.09 - Duncan
+5.08 - Shaq
+4.75 - Garnett
+4.22 - Dirk
+3.36 - Rasheed
+2.96 - Kobe
+2.77 - Nash
+2.65 - Carter
+2.58 - Kidd
+2.37 - Pierce
+2.15 - Parker
+2.07 - Ben Wallace
+1.76 - Pau Gasol
+1.76 - Ray Allen
+1.15 - Joe Johnson
+1.04 - Marion
+0.95 - Billups
+0.94 - Iverson

Makes sense that Lebron/Duncan/Shaq are at the top of the list. From 1999 to 2007, a Duncan/Shaq led team won the title 7 times in 9 years. Lebron has been dominating the NBA awards the past couple years. Four straight Finals and two back-to-back titles.

Shaq won MVP and Finals MVP in the same year in 2000
Duncan won MVP and Finals MVP in the same year in 2003
Lebron won MVP and Finals MVP in the same year in 2012 and 2013.
Kobe has never done this.

The early 2000s was the Shaq/Duncan era. It's currently the Lebron era. There never was a Kobe Bryant era.

[dubeta]

Here's the career RAPM numbers('97 to '14) for players in post-Jordan era that have played more than 70,000 possessions:

+5.63 - Lebron
+5.09 - Duncan
+5.08 - Shaq
+4.75 - Garnett
+4.22 - Dirk
+3.36 - Rasheed
+2.96 - Kobe
+2.77 - Nash
+2.65 - Carter
+2.58 - Kidd
+2.37 - Pierce
+2.15 - Parker
+2.07 - Ben Wallace
+1.76 - Pau Gasol
+1.76 - Ray Allen
+1.15 - Joe Johnson
+1.04 - Marion
+0.95 - Billups
+0.94 - Iverson

Makes sense that Lebron/Duncan/Shaq are at the top of the list. From 1999 to 2007, a Duncan/Shaq led team won the title 7 times in 9 years. Lebron has been dominating the NBA awards the past couple years. Four straight Finals and two back-to-back titles.

Shaq won MVP and Finals MVP in the same year in 2000
Duncan won MVP and Finals MVP in the same year in 2003
Lebron won MVP and Finals MVP in the same year in 2012 and 2013.
Kobe has never done this.

The early 2000s was the Shaq/Duncan era. It's currently the Lebron era. There never was a Kobe Bryant era.

undeniable proof that Kobe's a scrub. I wanna see how kobe stans try and spin this around.

"B-But he takes tough shots!"

[mehyaM24]

yeah, for a while there, the spurs, kg, shaq, kobe and dirk all dominated the league. tim duncan knew the spurs would regress eventually, and he and bron would meet again in the finals.

[T_L_P]

yeah, for a while there, the spurs, kg, shaq, kobe and dirk all dominated the league. tim duncan knew the spurs would regress eventually, and he and bron would meet again in the finals.

It all makes sense now though

[mehyaM24]

yeah....not the best defense there. still one of the GOAT gm 7 finals performances, though

[T_L_P]

yeah....not the best defense there. still one of the GOAT gm 7 finals performances, though

Nope, not that. Your inability to list Duncan with those guys...instead you write "the Spurs."

What, Duncan winning 3 Finals MVPs and 2 MVPs in a six year span isn't dominant enough to be mentioned next to Kobe or KG?

[Artillery]

Nope, not that. Your inability to list Duncan with those guys...instead you write "the Spurs."

What, Duncan winning 3 Finals MVPs and 2 MVPs in a six year span isn't dominant enough to be mentioned next to Kobe or KG?

Bryant shouldn't even be listed next to Duncan or KG. SidekickBe's not even a top-5 player in the post-Jordan era.

[mehyaM24]

Nope, not that. Your inability to list Duncan with those guys...instead you write "the Spurs."

What, Duncan winning 3 Finals MVPs and 2 MVPs in a six year span isn't dominant enough to be mentioned next to Kobe or KG?

well duncan had the best help of all those guys. the best coach too. it wouldnt be fair to compare their individual brilliance to the spurs' system and TEAM success.

[Purch]

well duncan had the best help of all those guys. the best coach too. it wouldnt be fair to compare their individual brilliance to the spurs' system and TEAM success.

So you list out Shaq and Kobe... Rather than simply listing out the Lakers


Even though they had... Shaq and Kobe...and The triangle offense..and Phil Jackson.


But you're not biased

[mehyaM24]

So you list out Shaq and Kobe... Rather than simply listing out the Lakers


Even though they had... Shaq and Kobe...and The triangle offense..and Phil Jackson.


But you're not biased

shaq/bean never had the luxury of playing with multiple HOFers in their prime/contributing.

duncan played with drob (HOF talent)...and parker/manu (prime/HOF talent)

[Purch]

shaq/bean never had the luxury of playing with multiple HOFers in their prime.

duncan played with drob...and parker/manu

If you're saying their both Goat candidates, then doesn't playing with each other along with Phil Jackson, negate your argument.

[Nowitness]

well duncan had the best help of all those guys. the best coach too. it wouldnt be fair to compare their individual brilliance to the spurs' system and TEAM success.

I hate Duncan as much as anyone, but even I know he had way less help than Shaq and Kobe, who not only had the luxury of playing with other, but also the best coach in NBA history and GOAT role players.