its funny how duncan fans are all saying "if duncan wins, hes better than kobe"

[TheWalkman]

oh sh!t, kenneth having a meltdown????

[SpurrDurr]

oh sh!t, kenneth having a meltdown????

He's turning into the biggest Lebron fan

[Kiddlovesnets]

Nope, they are being modest. Apparently Duncan is already better than Kobe with or without his 5th ring, with his upcoming he'd be chasing and possibly surpassing Shaq. You cant surpass someone behind you.

[Artillery]

kobe beat great spurs teams

Kobe had prime Shaq.
Duncan had Derek Anderson.

Definitely an even matchup.

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe had prime Shaq.
Duncan had Derek Anderson.

Definitely an even matchup.

david robinson was the spurs 2nd best player in 2001 and 2002... he averaging a near double double each time with 14-15ppg and great defense

tony parker and manu ginobili were great players in 2004 and 2008

[SpurrDurr]

david robinson was the spurs 2nd best player in 2001 and 2002... he averaging a near double double each time with 14-15ppg and great defense

tony parker and manu ginobili were great players in 2004 and 2008

So are Howard, Nash and Gasol, what happened?

[YAWN]

They're pretty close. Kobe has had more elite level seasons than Duncan, so that's his case over him.

Kobe still had another year or two of elite level ball before the injury which is where he would clearly separate himself from Shaq/Duncan. But not sure if thats gonna happen anymore.

kobe - 5 rings, 2 finals mvps, 1 mvp, 15x all star, 15x all nba, 12x all d, 2x scoring champ
duncan - 4 rings, 3 finals mvps, 2 mvps, 13x all star, 14x all nba, 13x all d
shaq - 4 rings, 3 finals mvps, 1 mvp, 15x all star, 14x all nba, 3x all d, 2x scoring champ


[QUOTE=TonyMontana][B][U]
Kobe Bryant

[kobeef24]

Why do you even care who ranks higher all time? They're right next to each other and an argument can be made for both. They're both top 10 all time players. Just admire both their careers. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

[Ass Dan]

What is funnier is that Kobe fans don't understand that this is already the case...

[chopchop20]

and last time i checked

kobe beat duncan 4 times in the playoffs. duncan only beat kobe 2 times

kobe won more titles

kobe has more all nba 1st teams

kobe has more defensive 1st teams

kobe has a better average

kobe has more total points

kobe has more game winning shots

kobe has duncans career high by half time

kobe has the sports illustrated player of the decade award

kobe has the sporting news player of the decade award

kobe has the tnt player of the decade award

kobe has the dime magazine player of the decade award

kobe has more 60 point games than duncan has 50 point games

kobe has more 50 point games than duncan has 40 point games

kobe has more 40 point games than duncan has 30 point games

kobe has a higher average as a 21 year old than duncans ever had in his entire life

kobes a three peat champion......... duncan never did it

kobes a repeat champion........duncan never even did that

kobe went to 3 straight finals .........TWICE.... duncan never even went to 2 straight finals once

duncan hasnt been his teams best player since 2007

duncan isnt even his teams 2nd best player in the finals this year





sorry bro... 15ppg is something kobe averaged as a 6th man... duncan does it in a staring role...

that doesnt cut it



5 titles and 7 finals > 4 titles in 5 finals

duncan never had the pressure of the media/fans on his shoulders. duncans had a care free career of obscurity

hes never had the type of expectations kobes had


he never had the bottom feeders best shot all year. the crap teams didnt mark the spurs on their calender like they did with the lakers



the spurs and duncan were an afterthought and they took advantage of it. duncan coasted on other peoples success



kobe bryant would never!... ever be a 2nd banana to tony parker...

only to the most dominant prime physical specimen ... shaq


thats the only guy who could outperform kobe. even while kobe was averaging 29ppg in the 2001 playoffs


kobes never been as insignificant as duncans been offensively over the past 7 years


not since he was a 2nd year 6th man


sit down before ya fall down sucka

Epic... just drop the mic and walk of the stage like Rany Watson in "Coming to America".

Nothing else really left to say. Mamba > Timmie

[chopchop20]

They're pretty close. Kobe has had more elite level seasons than Duncan, so that's his case over him.

Kobe still had another year or two of elite level ball before the injury which is where he would clearly separate himself from Shaq/Duncan. But not sure if thats gonna happen anymore.

kobe - 5 rings, 2 finals mvps, 1 mvp, 15x all star, 15x all nba, 12x all d, 2x scoring champ
duncan - 4 rings, 3 finals mvps, 2 mvps, 13x all star, 14x all nba, 13x all d
shaq - 4 rings, 3 finals mvps, 1 mvp, 15x all star, 14x all nba, 3x all d, 2x scoring champ




These don't seem like role player numbers to me..

kobe 1999-2000
23/6/5 Regular Season
21/5/4 Playoffs

kobe 2000-2001
29/6/5 Regular Season
29/7/6 Playoffs

kobe 2001-2002
25/6/6 Regular Season
27/6/5 Playoffs

kobe 2002-2003
30/7/6 Regular Season
32/5/5 Playoffs

Neither does Duncan this year 18/10 is nothing to sneeze at.

Kobe and Shaq averaged 30 each in the playoffs. No duo has done that. Haters are just retarded with this 2nd option crap.

[chopchop20]

Some of these things are very subjective and really don't mean shit. But it's you, so it's not a surprise.


Yeah, let's just ignore his defensive impact.


This is such flawed reasoning but, again, it's you, so I'm not surprised. Why does it matter their team role in the Finals if they both average 15 PPG? And Kobe wasn't the 6th Man in 2000, he started all 22 playoff games he played.


And 3 Finals MVPs > 2 Finals MVPs. See how easy that is? Not to mention he was still the Spurs best player throughout the entire 2007 playoff run.


So what? What does that have to do with judging who the better player is between the two?


Again, so what?


And, for the third and last time, so what? What does this have to do with anything? How does something like this mean, Kobe > Duncan ??

the spurs and duncan were an afterthought and they took advantage of it. duncan coasted on other peoples success


There's two sides to the floor.

Obviously never watched Kobe play defense in the playoffs before

[SuperPippen]

For reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam, Duncan is already a greater player than Kobe. A 5th ring places him legitimately within the top 5 discussion.

[ripthekik]

Again, who cares. Both are cemented in the top 10. Before duncan wins his 5th, they are interchangeable depending on your values and opinion. The exact spot doesn't matter that much. Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem are all in top 10 and that's all that matters.

[dbk123]

duncan isnt really doing shit these finals so id say he isnt ahead of kobe, regardless if he wins or loses