Why Kobe is rated higher than Shaq all time

[TheMarkMadsen]

Alright good, didn't think so.

2000 WCF game 7.

2001 WCF enore series.

Know your history son

Inb4 "Shaq 2000 WCF game 7"

[Fudge]

TonyMontana's argument in a nutshell:



That's all I see.

[gts]

In a career that has spanned more than 17 years, 1,459 games, over 54,000 minutes it's incredibly entertaining to see Kobe's detractors reduced to breaking down his career to a few missed FTs here and there or a few bad stretches.

what a bunch of loonballs, keep it up. You don't have a clue of what you're talking about but you do have a comedy value that can't be replicated.

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Most people have shaq rated higher than kobe anyway sensible fans do.

[Ca$H]

Most people have shaq rated higher than kobe anyway sensible fans do.

I'll just listen to professional journalists that get paid for their opinions not random fans.

[Tking714]

No clue. In an all time draft there's no one that Id take over Shaq. Except MAYBE Jordan

[zoom17]

I'll just listen to professional journalists that get paid for their opinions not random fans.

Its the truth most people have shaq rated higher than ballhog kobe.

[SwayDizzle]

Damn straight Kobes is higher ranked than Shaq.

Let's just keep things very basic.

If Shaq himself says Kobe is better than him, then for pete's sake, he's better. And Shaq said this during his own prime.

You guys fail to see how special of a player Kobe is because you hate his character. His bball skills are unparalleled. Do you even comprehend the fact that Kobe is one of the best post-up players (if not the best) in the league right now? A perimeter superstar is also the best at posting up. loooool at all these weak ass centers these days.

[zoom17]

where is this from?

[Magic 32]

where is this from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daDhTiGc0fw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=sRuyeorO9CQ

[Electric Slide]

where is this from?

[Ca$H]

Its the truth most people have shaq rated higher than ballhog kobe.

Shaq is a better basketball player than Kobe but Kobe has had the better career. The cumulative data doesn't support Shaq having the better career.

[Stringer Bell]

People often underplay Shaq's longevity (and Hakeem also).

Shaq was a huge impact player as soon as he entered the league. The next year, he was 2nd in scoring and 1st in FG%. His last season as an elite player was the 04-05 season when he finished 2nd in MVP voting (although he did manage to make All-NBA first team the next year).

1992/93 to 2004/05, that's 13 seasons as an elite player.

Kobe's real breakout year was 2000/01. He was still an excellent player in 99/00, so that's be nice and count that year.

1999/00 to 2012/13. 14 seasons. Wow, big difference.

Shaq is greater all-time and was the better player at his peak. But I agree in Kobe having a much stronger work ethic, which is why I respect him more.
Shaq would take the regular season to get in shape. Not saying he didn't work on free-throws, but he actually said in his book "it's a good thing I have one weakness, FT shooting, otherwise I'd be so unstoppable that my ego would be out of control", or something like that.

Apparently, pick-and-roll defense was not a weakness of his either.

[Straight_Ballin]

1st team All NBA is the best measure of sustained elite play.

I stopped reading after this.

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