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    Default Re: New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by zizozain
    from 911 Firefighter's tape




    These tapes reveal the fact that the firefighters were not overly concerned with the strength of the fires and believed they could control them. They were not raging infernos that could melt steel. These tapes alone prove that the official story of the collapse of the World Trade Towers is a complete and total lie. Why have the rest of the tapes been classified? Because they reveal the truth, that 's why.
    That discussion takes place between firefighters that were several floors below the main impact level on the other side of the building. A side of the building that was also protected by multiple elevator shafts, The fire fighters even discuss that when you read an unedited script. You'd know that but the website you copied that from decided you didn't need to hear all the details so they "skip ahead" to the parts they want you to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gts
    They died in 1 and 2 because they along with the NYPD were in there trying to get civilians out. They knew it was dangerous, but that's what firemen do, they go into building everyone else is trying to leave. They'll knowingly take that risk. Yes they'd even take that risk to save your pathetic life

    They didn't die in WTC7 because the building had been cleared for several hours there was no reason to be in a building they knew was going to fail

    There's big difference between the two scenarios and the fact you can't tell the difference comes as no surprise.
    The reason they knew WTC7 was going to come down was there was a visible bulge in one corners about 7-14 floors up. That's a very bad sign in a building. A building that starts to bulge is a very bad sign, it means there has been a loss of structural integrity and certain columns are supporting more than the expected weight.

    Loss of structural integrity was also noticed in the North Tower before it collapsed. However, this was at the very top of the building and was noticed by police helicopter pilots. The building was bowing inwards and glowing red. The cops recommended evacuating everyone including the firefighters, but those reports never reach the Fire Department whose radios are incompatible with the police radios.

    The bulge in WTC7 was visible from the street level. So yeah, that's how the fire department knew. Considering two building had just collapsed due to fire, it's a pretty common sense opinion.

    There's nothing associated with a controlled demolition that would cause loss of structural integrity hours before the decision to bring the building down. In fact, you would want to keep the building structurally intact until the moment of detonation, because you are still going to be working around the building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenIverson3
    watch this full documentary and then tell me if you still believe it was 19 dudes with box cutters guided by a dude in a cave managed to destroy the most heavily protected air space in the world...
    I've always loved this nonsense about "the dude in the cave." He didn't grow up in the cave, he moved there. Bin Laden was a very rich guy who ran a construction company and interacted with the highest levels of Saudi society. If you put Steve Jobs in a Cave, would he suddenly would know nothing about computers. If Einstein went camping, would he suddenly know less about Physics? Completely dumb.

    Also the "most heavily protected air space in the world" is nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travelingman
    I already told you about the electrical transformers being a likely cause for people hearing "explosions". You are very silent on the issue of the 130-140 decibel sound levels that would accompany a series of explosions necessary to bring down WTC7. Shocking.

    Also, of course I will address your question about the demolition vs. the collapse of WTC7. In fact, while you are stuck trying to prove a point by simply looking at a demolition and saying "herpidyderpidy, dat dere looks like a demolition to meee!", I have a source that includes scientific reasoning as to why the building collapsed. Here's your answer. You can't disprove anything that is brought up in this article. Instead, you will once again run back to dismissing it as some "government misinformation ish".

    http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf
    Electrical transformers ? That's what they call it these days? Pretty sure people can distinguish if its a bomb or something else.... So electrical transformers blew up the whole lobby in the south tower before the plane actually hit? Give me a ****en break. Did electrical transformers also blow out the lobby in tower 7 and that's why Barry Jennings was stepping over dead bodies when he was getting out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC
    I've always loved this nonsense about "the dude in the cave." He didn't grow up in the cave, he moved there. Bin Laden was a very rich guy who ran a construction company and interacted with the highest levels of Saudi society. If you put Steve Jobs in a Cave, would he suddenly would know nothing about computers. If Einstein went camping, would he suddenly know less about Physics? Completely dumb.

    Also the "most heavily protected air space in the world" is nonsense.
    Bin laden was hiding in mountains n caves during that time...

    USA claims its the most heavily protected air space in the world.... They spend billions trynna protect their people but on that one day, EVERYTHING fails n they get attacked out of nowhere... Hahah how do ppl believe this nonsense...?

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    If you put Steve Jobs in a Cave, would he suddenly would know nothing about computers. If Einstein went camping, would he suddenly know less about Physics?
    Quote Originally Posted by AllenIverson3
    Bin laden was hiding in mountains n caves during that time...
    Wow.

    So you not only believe in conspiracies you don't understand analogies?

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    Default Re: New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Macho Man
    Steve Jobs is dead dewd
    Pssst. Don't anyone tell him about Einstein.

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    Default Re: New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC
    Wow.

    So you not only believe in conspiracies you don't understand analogies?
    That's not the point.... It wasn't mean literally smh... Obviously it went over your head. Osama was listed by the FBI on most wanted list for 98 attacks but not 9/11 bcuz they didn't have evidence to prove be was behind it... So why're we even talking bout him?

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