What's more impressive? Kobe's 81 points or MJ's 63 points?

[Element]

Seriously, argurably best team ever, playoffs, how do idiots even debate about this?

The defense being played was s.hit, even compared to Toronto's. It's not like Kobe was hitting easy shots, either. Dude was nailing whatever the fvck he threw up that night, pull-up threes and fadeaways with whomever right in his grill. He also scored 18 more points and didn't need double OT, plus he single-handedly overcame a 20+ point deficit and buried the Raptors, while MJ lost.

Just because it's MJ and because it's the Celtics doesn't mean it's more impressive. You're supposed to analyze a performance here, not the name value of it

[VIntageNOvel]

3 pages and no one bring up stat like FG and shit, isnt this ISH?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Jordan mythologists still don't know the difference between a great team and a great defense.

[juju151111]

Jordan mythologists still don't know the difference between a great team and a great defense.

Sit your dumbass down. Kobe has scored 50 once in his whole playoffs career. Mj scores 63 points against top 3 team of all time.

[kamil]

81

The only thing I remember about that Jordan's series against the Celtics is MJ quitting on his team in the next game.

How could you remember? You're a child.

[Genaro]

81. I don't see anyone praise Kobe's 50 againt the Suns in a losing efford.

[sportjames23]

63 points by a second year player vs one of the greatest teams of all time on the road, or 81 points by vs one of the shittiest teams in the league at home.


I'll take the 63 point game.

[SHAQisGOAT]

2006 Raptors had 27 wins in a weak-ass Eastern Conference. 29th of 30 in drtg (112.7), also 29th in opp/ppg and last in opp/fg%.
Kobe played against them in a regular-season game, guarded by.... Who again?

1986 Celtics are what many call the greatest team ever, with peak Bird, prime McHale, also Parish and DJ, with Walton giving his final run, and Ainge... They had 67 wins in the greatest era of basketball, in the most stacked conference ever, were 1st in drtg (102.6), 3rd in opp/ppg and 1st in opp/fg%. They lost only one game at home all season long and they destroyed opponents on both ends.
Some say their strategy was to let Jordan get his but you can watch the game and even if it was, it clearly changed as they were playing great D on him (even with that bogus last 3pt call). He also had 6 assists and 5 rebounds.
MJ gave it his all in a post-season game, coming back after a broken foot. He was being guarded by DJ (still really good even after his athletic prime and some issues), Ainge who was a tough sob, and met at the basket by Parish, McHale, Walton and Bird. As you can see in game 3 Jordan got straight locked down.

With all that said, Kobe wouldn't even sniff 50, at his best, against the 86 Celtics

[Rondo]

It's obviously MJ. Quality of opponent is huge. How many do you think prime MJ would get against that Raptors team if he put his mind to it?

It's funny how people always hate on the Eastern Conference and how poor it is yet the value some of you are placing in an extra 18 points against one of the worst teams in it compared to what was one of the all time best teams and eventual champions is crazy.

[comerb]

Honestly I think MJs 69pt against the Cavs was more impressive than Kobe's 81 too, he had something like 18 rebounds.

[scm5]

Kobe's 62 in 3 quarters against the 60-win Mavs is probably the single most dominant scoring performance in NBA history.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...512200LAL.html

He did it on 74% TS%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2006/

It's surreal looking at Kobe's gamelog that season. He went on an absolute tear in terms of scoring.

[Quizno]

1956-86 Boston Celtics Opponent's PPG: 104.7
2005-2006 Toronto Raptors Opponent's PPG: 104.0

[jstern]

I think the best way to look at this is to ask yourself what would you rather do, score 81 points against a horrible team during the Season, that if I remember correctly were not even putting their hand up at times when Kobe was taking a shot, and after the league changed the rules to make it easier for perimeter players to score. Or score 63 points against one of the greatest teams of all time, but in over time.

[I<3NBA]

which is more impressive? scoring 100 vs a d league team or 50 vs an NBA team?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

So now Jordan mythologists want to recognize the differences in defensive efficiency.

You guys realize right that the Celtics defense is a below average Kobe playoff opponent by defensive rating right?