Idea to counter TANKING

[VIntageNOvel]

i got this idea from looking at this season: Denver and Hawk, both own NYK and Nets first round pick, both can fight for playoff spot without worrying what pick they would be getting in this heavy talent draft year

1. one cannot own their own draft pick,
2. at the end of the season, the worst record can first choose which team draft pick they will get, followed by the second worst..and so on..
3. lottery and drafting will be held as usual
4. pick can still be traded, but cannot overwrite rule#1
5. no criss cross: if team A have team B's pick, team B can't own team A's pick

i.e. bobcats finish with worst record, they can first choose which draft pick from other team they would get, i.e cavs pick, as their foresee the cavs would be getting new coach or irving is injured and wont return soon, etc. so tanking would be useless, as you dont have your pick, and there would be extra motivation against the team that draft pick you own, + every team would try hardest to improve as they dont want to make their competition better with awful season

worst record still get the luxury for first choose (and champion like miami would be left with let say spurs/okc pick)

loophole: there's a chance that the champion would get the first pick, if the top team that year get into lottery the year after

any thought? maybe some other restriction to improve

NEW SPIN ON THIS IDEA -

Teams get to choose the team whose pick they receive based on record, for the NEXT YEAR. Teams' organizations would be very involved and interested in the performance of other teams, but the essential point is still maintained -

The success of a team on a single-year basis does not guarantee draft position. In fact, if the worst team in the league (bucks) end with the worst record, and select the Magic for their NEXT YEAR's pick (they get to draft according to the magic's record), the Magic might take it as a slight and try to have a great record, to ensure that the bucks get a bad pick.

What do you think? The ultimate goal is to have as many teams as possible, all of them if possible, TRYING TO WIN.s

[Qwyjibo]

So now you give teams an incentive to collude with each other. That would be a bigger blow to the "integrity of the game" than tanking ever was.

[VIntageNOvel]

So now you give teams an incentive to collude with each other. That would be a bigger blow to the "integrity of the game" than tanking ever was.

explain collude, how?

like i said, can be improved with certain restriction

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

not a terrible idea.

[Solefade]

didn't read but probably won't work

[gts]

Just get rid of the lottery. Don't make it complicated...

Worst team gets the first pick. As long as there's an outside chance a team could get the first pick without being the worst team in the league then teams will tank on some level.

Secondly, adjust it so you can't have the number one pick two years in a row no matter how bad you are, if you pick first one year you're doing no better than the 6th pick the next year

[Miles and Miles]

Just get rid of the lottery. Don't make it complicated...

Worst team gets the first pick. As long as there's an outside chance a team could get the first pick without being the worst team in the league then teams will tank on some level.

Secondly, adjust it so you can't have the number one pick two years in a row no matter how bad you are, if you pick first one year you're doing no better than the 6th pick the next year

This would encourage them to tank even harder if they are guaranteed the best pick. Right now the worst team only gets a 25% chance at the #1 pick. No one is tanking to get the 6th worst recording thinking they will get the #1 pick right now.

[2LeTTeRS]

Just get rid of the lottery. Don't make it complicated...

Worst team gets the first pick. As long as there's an outside chance a team could get the first pick without being the worst team in the league then teams will tank on some level.

Secondly, adjust it so you can't have the number one pick two years in a row no matter how bad you are, if you pick first one year you're doing no better than the 6th pick the next year

Doesn't this incentivize tanking to an even further degree? We would go back to pre-lottery NBA; with the impact that one player can have the league would feature teams with talent comparable to D-League squads when a franchise changer was coming.

[wakencdukest]

Is tanking really that much of a problem? It's usually the shittiest teams in the league that would consider tanking, and it doesn't usually work out because the teams that are in the lottery year after year still seem to be shitty, with a few exeptions of course.

[VIntageNOvel]

Is tanking really that much of a problem? It's usually the shittiest teams in the league that would consider tanking, and it doesn't usually work out because the teams that are in the lottery year after year still seem to be shitty, with a few exeptions of course.

no problem for the team,

but problem for us audience and fans who wasting time and money and get to watch this awful season, look at east standing

in the east, outside your favourite team and heat/pacers very few match has been watchable,

the silver lining:there are some emerging underdog like portland and suns, who have been fun to watch, and there's comedic gold like NYK and nets

[gts]

This would encourage them to tank even harder if they are guaranteed the best pick. Right now the worst team only gets a 25% chance at the #1 pick. No one is tanking to get the 6th worst recording thinking they will get the #1 pick right now.

Nah... There will always be one or two clearly bad teams that are not tanking, they just suck you don't worry about the.

The object is to stop the larger numbers of teams from losing just enough games to be in the lottery or to increase their number of ping pong balls...

That's the tanking you want to go after.

[VIntageNOvel]

Nah... There will always be one or two clearly bad teams that are not tanking, they just suck you don't worry about the.

The object is to stop the larger numbers of teams from losing just enough games to be in the lottery or to increase their number of ping pong balls...

That's the tanking you want to go after.

not really, in the case of heavy talent like next year, which top 6 most likely would guaranteed you a franchise player (wiggin, parker, randle, embiid, exum, smart), there would still plenty of em tanking, to make it worse more team would be as bold as jazz, and there would be a race for worst record

[wakencdukest]

no problem for the team,

but problem for us audience and fans who wasting time and money and get to watch this awful season, look at east standing

in the east, outside your favourite team and heat/pacers very few match has been watchable,

the silver lining:there are some emerging underdog like portland and suns, who have been fun to watch, and there's comedic gold like NYK and nets

I don't think that is due to tanking. I think it's a mixture of injuries, bad management, poor team chemistry, rebuilding, etc. There's teams in the East like the Nets, Knicks, Bulls, that should be good but for the above reasons they just aren't.

[Dunaprenti]

1. one cannot own their own draft pick,
2. at the end of the season, the worst record can first choose which team draft pick they will get, followed by the second worst..and so on..

So the second worst team will have the 1 pick?
And having two number 1 picks in a row is probably rare, so the rule about consecutive years wont change much.
What about deducting money from the tv rights for the worst teams?

[hawkfan]

Get rid of the weighted lottery system.
Make it where every team has a chance.
That way there is no motivation to lose games. Also this allows teams to develop young players. Right now teams have to balance developing young players with trying to lose to get a better chance in the lottery. And then some of these young players develop bad habits.