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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    Who plays SF? Mike Bibby? James Jones?
    Shane Battier was on the 2012, and 2013 Heat. He could fit that role perfectly. Mike Miller came through in spades. Basically anyone who can stretch the floor. Let's not act like Kobe and Wade together wouldn't wreak havoc even if not being exact chemistry fits. Neither was LeBron and Wade. Prime Kobe would win 2 or 3 rings with the kind of talent on those Heat teams and the competition they face. I only see them struggling with 2012 Celtics, and possibly 2013 Indiana due to rebounding issues. That's it. But I think Kobe could do some binge scoring against weak guards v.s. Indiana that no one on Miami was exploiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    Shane Battier was on the 2012, and 2013 Heat. He could fit that role perfectly. Mike Miller came through in spades. Basically anyone who can stretch the floor. Let's not act like Kobe and Wade together wouldn't wreak havoc even if not being exact chemistry fits. Neither was LeBron and Wade. Prime Kobe would win 2 or 3 rings with the kind of talent on those Heat teams and the competition they face. I only see them struggling with 2012 Celtics, and possibly 2013 Indiana due to rebounding issues. That's it. But I think Kobe could do some binge scoring against weak guards v.s. Indiana that no one on Miami was exploiting.
    2011?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    2011?
    The Heat lost in 2011 because LeBron was casper in the Finals. Didn't matter who also played SF for them.

    They beat the Bulls because they were regular season over achievers who had no playmaker outside of Derrick Rose, and the Heat zoned up on him with quality defenders / athletes. They smashed the Bulls, 4 games to 1.

    I don't think much is changing by simply swapping out Kobe for LeBron. LeBron's defense on Rose to end games? Kobe is a superior man defender than LeBron, so that's no problem at all.

    Prime Kobe's providing what the Heat lacked in the Finals against the Mavericks. That's 25 - 30 ppg / 5 - 7 rebounds / 5 - 7 assists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    The Heat lost in 2011 because LeBron was casper in the Finals. Didn't matter who also played SF for them.

    They beat the Bulls because they were regular season over achievers who had no playmaker outside of Derrick Rose, and the Heat zoned up on him with quality defenders / athletes. They smashed the Bulls, 4 games to 1.

    I don't think much is changing by simply swapping out Kobe for LeBron. LeBron's defense on Rose to end games? Kobe is a superior man defender than LeBron, so that's no problem at all.

    Prime Kobe's providing what the Heat lacked in the Finals against the Mavericks. That's 25 - 30 ppg / 5 - 7 rebounds / 5 - 7 assists.
    Kobe is LITERALLY the most overrated defender in NBA history. The gambles he takes will have a speedy guy like Rose leaving him in a dust cloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    Kobe is LITERALLY the most overrated defender in NBA history. The gambles he takes will have a speedy guy like Rose leaving him in a dust cloud.
    Kobe's weakness is cheating off of shooters, not defending ball handlers

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    Kobe is LITERALLY the most overrated defender in NBA history. The gambles he takes will have a speedy guy like Rose leaving him in a dust cloud.
    Umm, Kobe is lazy off the ball. He cheats. Doesn't close out on shooters, isn't much for weak side help or blocking shots on big men.

    But Kobe, especially motivated Kobe is an AMAZING on ball defender. Tenacious actually. Kobe's locked up Westbrook, Rondo, done damage harassing Chris Paul throwing him off his game in the playoffs.

    He locked up Kyrie Irving last year at an advanced age, well past his prime. And we all know what he did to the King in the All Star Game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    Umm, Kobe is lazy off the ball. He cheats. Doesn't close out on shooters, isn't much for weak side help or blocking shots on big men.

    But Kobe, especially motivated Kobe is an AMAZING on ball defender. Tenacious actually. Kobe's locked up Westbrook, Rondo, done damage harassing Chris Paul throwing him off his game in the playoffs.

    He locked up Kyrie Irving last year at an advanced age, well past his prime. And we all know what he did to the King in the All Star Game.

    kobe risking to lose an eye if that headband pops out

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom17
    This has to be the more over used pic on this site yes it was a good block but at the end of the day its just a allstar game
    LeBron takes All Star Games seriously. As does any competitor. Damn near cried after the 2012 come back where they came up short.

    Don't be upset doe. Kobe's 2x blocks on LeBron happened. All Star Games are competitive, especially mano y mano situations between the best players in the game. Specifically that series of events where Kobe locked him up.

    LeBron just never got him back good. He ceded alphaness to Kobe after those possessions. Kobe shook him on a play in their regular season game in Miami. Dunked on him in their matchup in LA, too.

    Kobe's probably the 2nd best 1 on 1 player ever though, both sides of the ball, so it's nothing to be ashamed about for LeBron.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    LeBron takes All Star Games seriously. As does any competitor. Damn near cried after the 2012 come back where they came up short.

    Don't be upset doe. Kobe's 2x blocks on LeBron happened. All Star Games are competitive, especially mano y mano situations between the best players in the game. Specifically that series of events where Kobe locked him up.

    LeBron just never got him back good. He ceded alphaness to Kobe after those possessions. Kobe shook him on a play in their regular season game in Miami. Dunked on him in their matchup in LA, too.

    Kobe's probably the 2nd best 1 on 1 player ever though, both sides of the ball, so it's nothing to be ashamed about for LeBron.

    prime bran vs decline kobe is a fair matchup and kobe won

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    Kobe is LITERALLY the most overrated defender in NBA history. The gambles he takes will have a speedy guy like Rose leaving him in a dust cloud.
    Um.. you do realize that the Lakers in 2010 put Kobe on both Westbrook and Rondo and it was successful right?

    Old Kobe with a broken down knee was given those assignments because he is a very good man defender and knew how to shade them correctly so that they would be left with one option.. jumpers. Which they werent great at. Neither was/is Rose. And both 2010 rondo and WB were blazing fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    As for Kobe? No one has been more carried than this clown. Kobe has bricked more shots than nearly everybody in history. Guy averaged 15.6 ppg on .367% in the 2000 finals....including a legendary 4-20 in game 5 ( at his 8-27 shooting display in the clincher).


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67tlum-sbkw


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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom17
    Sure 13-6
    6 of those 13 wins came on the cowardly stacked Heat roster, post 2010 when Kobe was well past his prime ... and Pau Gasol reverted to Paula Gasoft due to Shannon Brown banging his fiance.

    Be fair about the head to head record when taking teams, context into account.

    In the all star game when it was just two competitive ballers going at it, in ISO situations, an ancient Kobe locked up a prime of his life LeBron. It's only being real about the context of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    6 of those 13 wins came on the cowardly stacked Heat roster, post 2010 when Kobe was well past his prime ... and Pau Gasol reverted to Paula Gasoft due to Shannon Brown banging his fiance.

    Be fair about the head to head record when taking teams, context into account.

    In the all star game when it was just two competitive ballers going at it, in ISO situations, an ancient Kobe locked up a prime of his life LeBron. It's only being real about the context of things.
    this right here, not only kobe shut down bran, he even taunted him to go for the last shot, only to watch a hot potato fly across the court a minute later

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    Default Re: Replace Lebron with Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by zoom17
    Your nitpicking again what about the Cleveland years were lebron had the inferior team and still won the majority of the time nope you skip to when he is a Heat

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