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Wilt Davis
Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Rounded:
66 points on 59 FG% (27-45) and 63 FT% (13-20)
Wilt's team average: 133 - 127 for 21 wins and 11 losses
Pace adjusted (on 130 ppg combined team average compared to 98 today):
50 ppg at today's pace.
So Wilt is roughly equivalent to a player today having 32 50 point games in their career.
Kobe has had 25.
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Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Marchesk
Rounded:
66 points on 59 FG% (27-45) and 63 FT% (13-20)
Wilt's team average: 133 - 127 for 21 wins and 11 losses
Pace adjusted (on 130 ppg combined team average compared to 98 today):
50 ppg at today's pace.
So Wilt is roughly equivalent to a player today having 32 50 point games in their career.
Kobe has had 25.
Hey Marchesk, curious are those bolded numbers for one game? Or are they some type of accumulated average?
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Wilt Davis
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Pointguard
Hey Marchesk, curious are those bolded numbers for one game? Or are they some type of accumulated average?
It's just a rounded average over 32 games in which Wilt scored 60 or more points.
He would score less given today's pace, but his FG% would most likely go up. So we're talking instead about a 50 ppg average on say 65% shooting for those games at roughly today's pace.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Marchesk
Rounded:
66 points on 59 FG% (27-45) and 63 FT% (13-20)
Wilt's team average: 133 - 127 for 21 wins and 11 losses
Pace adjusted (on 130 ppg combined team average compared to 98 today):
50 ppg at today's pace.
So Wilt is roughly equivalent to a player today having 32 50 point games in their career.
Kobe has had 25.
How about adjusting Kobe's games' pace (and then his scoring numbers) as well? The fact that he played in modern leagues doesn't mean that the pace in those specific games was only at league average. Does he still have that many 50-pointers after the adjustment?
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Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Psileas
How about adjusting Kobe's games' pace (and then his scoring numbers) as well? The fact that he played in modern leagues doesn't mean that the pace in those specific games was only at league average. Does he still have that many 50-pointers after the adjustment?
Why wouldn't he??? Or did you mean 60 pointers?
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Pointguard
Why wouldn't he??? Or did you mean 60 pointers?
No, 50-pointers. What the OP did was basically take all of Wilt's 60-point games and implant them into games with a uniform pace, which is the average pace of Kobe's era. My suspicion, however, is that Kobe's 50-point games were played at paces faster than the average pace of Kobe's era and therefore need adjustment themselves to match the same uniform pace, which will bring Kobe's "adjusted" 50-pointers down.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Pointguard
Why wouldn't he??? Or did you mean 60 pointers?
He's talking about adjusting the pace of the games Kobe scored 50+ in for today's pace, like I did (roughly) with Wilt. It may be that Kobe's higher scoring games were also above the league team ppg average, as was the case with Wilt.
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Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Marchesk
Rounded:
66 points on 59 FG% (27-45) and 63 FT% (13-20)
Wilt's team average: 133 - 127 for 21 wins and 11 losses
Pace adjusted (on 130 ppg combined team average compared to 98 today):
50 ppg at today's pace.
So Wilt is roughly equivalent to a player today having 32 50 point games in their career.
Kobe has had 25.
How many 60 points games did Wilt have in the playoffs?
I can tell you that, he had ZERO.
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the kkklaw
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Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Psileas
No, 50-pointers. What the OP did was basically take all of Wilt's 60-point games and implant them into games with a uniform pace, which is the average pace of Kobe's era. My suspicion, however, is that Kobe's 50-point games were played at paces faster than the average pace of Kobe's era and therefore need adjustment themselves to match the same uniform pace, which will bring Kobe's "adjusted" 50-pointers down.
Very interesting! Thanks for the clarification.
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MH!
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Psileas
No, 50-pointers. What the OP did was basically take all of Wilt's 60-point games and implant them into games with a uniform pace, which is the average pace of Kobe's era. My suspicion, however, is that Kobe's 50-point games were played at paces faster than the average pace of Kobe's era and therefore need adjustment themselves to match the same uniform pace, which will bring Kobe's "adjusted" 50-pointers down.
Not really. All of Kobe's 60+ point games were played at under 90 possesions.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by aj1987
Not really. All of Kobe's 60+ point games were played at under 90 possesions.
First of all, I was talking about 50 pointers, but you're still wrong: Only one of Kobe's 60 pointers was played at a pace (marginally) below 90, and it's the only one that needed an OT.
Actually, the OP isn't really using pace to adjust games, but scores, and scores seem to diverge as much, if not even more, from the norm, with only the one vs the Mavs coming close to the league averages.
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MH!
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by Psileas
First of all, I was talking about 50 pointers, but you're still wrong: Only one of Kobe's 60 pointers was played at a pace (marginally) below 90, and it's the only one that needed an OT.
I only did the 60+ pointers because it's a smaller sample and easier to do. Also, Kobe's 81 point game was played at 86 pace. So, no. Most of them are under 90.
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Decent college freshman
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
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MH!
Re: Wilt's averages for his 32 60+ point games
Originally Posted by PHILA
My bad. Messed up the calculations.
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