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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhantomCreep
    Conspiracy nuts tend to be right-wingers. Alex Jones?
    Conspiracy nuttiness affects folks across the political spectrum. It's how human beings brains are wired. A little bit faulty. Which conspiracies you believe might be affected by your politics, but the propensity is there no matter who you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miller-time
    It is amazing to think that some people have been stuck in this rut for 13 years now.

    Actually the conspiracy nonsense really got going several years afterwards.

    Loose Change came out in 2005. It's easier to push the theories when you several years beyond the events and people's memories get hazy, but the emotions are still there.

    The insta-false-flag conspiracy is relatively new

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhantomCreep
    Meh. Conspiracy nuts are the real sheep.

    Look how many lapped up the shite served in the Loose Change series. Doctored phone calls? GTFO.

    Absolutely. If the truth is the starting vector point, the narrative usually diverges from it in both directions. Loose Change was a bunch of confounded and sensationalist silliness.

    In these instances, I like to use the forest and the trees analogy. If you're looking at the details of a tree, you are inherently too close up to see the whole forest. If you can see an entire forest, you cannot see the details of each tree.

    To understand why things like 9/11 happen, you have to have a general understanding of history, politics, sociology etc. Basically an overview of the forest. You don't need to see a guy signaling from a window on the 84th floor just before the plane hits, or trucks furtively deploying away from the scene after the collapse of building 7 etc. These details are too close up to matter. You're never gonna know the specifics, and frankly they don't matter. Loose Change is basically fictional docu-tainment about theoretical specifics of a broad issue.

    Basically the people who believe Loose Change are the ones fixating too much on the details, and the people who dismiss any possibility of conspiracy are just looking away entirely. If you can see the forest for the trees, you understand that a few ragtag radical camel jockeys do not manipulate the actions of the world superpower triumverate of US-Israel-Britain. It is, in fact, just the opposite.

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    This clip from the movie Casino pretty much sums up my opinion on the official 911 story.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZHSGyos6g

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
    Liberals...
    Them ****ers are wack crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrazotile
    People rather just accept the convenient explanation and keep living their lives in normal and predictable fashion.
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    What irks me is these people are completely manipulated by the "authoritarian" fallacy that they don't want to consider any other explanation.

    Like one of the arguments asked, "Where are the sources?" How about your observation dumbsh*t? How about a bit of reasoning?

    The authoritarian voice can be manipulated, but it is kind of hard to manipulate observation and sound reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    What irks me is these people are completely manipulated by the "authoritarian" fallacy that they don't want to consider any other explanation.

    Like one of the arguments asked, "Where are the sources?" How about your observation dumbsh*t? How about a bit of reasoning?

    The authoritarian voice can be manipulated, but it is kind of hard to manipulate observation and sound reason.

    Let's say we could find out the absolute truth about 9/11 tomorrow, and for arguments sake let's say it indicted every major politician in the US.

    The ramifications would be unthinkable. The entire government would have to be overthrown. How would that even happen? A militia? A revolution? It would be madness. It would be CHAOS.

    Nobody really wants that, now especially imagine if you're some simple-minded, slow-witted average american beta. Chaos is the nightmare scenario for the weak and insecure. It means fending for themselves. It means leading their own way. It's terror. Orwell said it best. "FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."

    The fact is, most Americans both need and want manipulative and abusive leaders who at least keep things ordered, rather than a free-for-all. For most people, the scariest thing of all is chaos. Most people are meant to follow. They need to be led. That's just the way the world works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC
    Actually the conspiracy nonsense really got going several years afterwards.

    Loose Change came out in 2005. It's easier to push the theories when you several years beyond the events and people's memories get hazy, but the emotions are still there.

    The insta-false-flag conspiracy is relatively new
    Actually they got going pretty early on. They probably didn't all fall together into a more single theory until somewhere between 03 and 04 and from then it probably took awhile before Loose Change was produced, but I remember very clearly reading about some of the conspiracy theories when I was still doing IT in 2001. Unfortunately I actually got really into it for awhile, it was kind of like an awakening. I never really looked at the world in that way and just took everything for granted. But then after awhile it got really nutty and I got out of it quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miller-time
    Actually they got going pretty early on. They probably didn't all fall together into a more single theory until somewhere between 03 and 04 and from then it probably took awhile before Loose Change was produced, but I remember very clearly reading about some of the conspiracy theories when I was still doing IT in 2001. Unfortunately I actually got really into it for awhile, it was kind of like an awakening. I never really looked at the world in that way and just took everything for granted. But then after awhile it got really nutty and I got out of it quickly.
    Conspiracy theories backed up with a video and sound reasoning is more powerful than any newscast.

    Sure there are some wild ones out there, but it is prob your fault for believing them in the first place.

    Guys like Kevnyc disgust me; here we have a video and a logical explanation, but he can't wrap his mind around it because it's not being reported by Fox Channel 9.

    This whole authoritarian mindset is by far worse than even the crazy conspiracy nuts. You can literally pull any sh*t out of your a*s and then say it's from a "reputable" news station and these idiots will fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

    Americans are just stupid; they would rather be told what to think than to think on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    Conspiracy theories backed up with a video and sound reasoning is more powerful than any newscast.

    Sure there are some wild ones out there, but it is prob your fault for believing them in the first place.

    Guys like Kevnyc disgust me; here we have a video and a logical explanation, but he can't wrap his mind around it because it's not being reported by Fox Channel 9.

    This whole authoritarian mindset is by far worse than even the crazy conspiracy nuts. You can literally pull any sh*t out of your a*s and then say it's from a "reputable" news station and these idiots will fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

    Americans are just stupid; they would rather be told what to think than to think on their own.

    God's joke is cruel.

    He gives a man clarity of vision, and then surrounds him with a hundred blind men so he cannot discuss that which he sees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    Conspiracy theories backed up with a video and sound reasoning is more powerful than any newscast.

    Sure there are some wild ones out there, but it is prob your fault for believing them in the first place.

    Guys like Kevnyc disgust me; here we have a video and a logical explanation, but he can't wrap his mind around it because it's not being reported by Fox Channel 9.

    This whole authoritarian mindset is by far worse than even the crazy conspiracy nuts. You can literally pull any sh*t out of your a*s and then say it's from a "reputable" news station and these idiots will fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

    Americans are just stupid; they would rather be told what to think than to think on their own.
    Straight booty chatter. Suspect #2 reported to the federales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    Straight booty chatter. Suspect #2 reported to the federales.

    The suspects are already workin wit the fuzz. This goes deep, on some The Departed type shat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0


    Props to that dude.

    I recommend all the sheep watch this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs_quLjUHwM

    it's not even some typical lame ass 9/11 video at all. It's satire but the point gets across to anyone who isn't a total moron.

    Every US war has started with a false flag operation. The Iraq war was no different.

    A clip that argues almost entirety from incredulity/lack of imagination. Weak sauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    What irks me is these people are completely manipulated by the "authoritarian" fallacy that they don't want to consider any other explanation.

    Like one of the arguments asked, "Where are the sources?" How about your observation dumbsh*t? How about a bit of reasoning?

    The authoritarian voice can be manipulated, but it is kind of hard to manipulate observation and sound reason.
    So I am just to blindly believe in theories that doesn't have any backing up to it just because it is different? A theory doesn't make it a fact either way without any proof of it happening.

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    Throw that clown in Guantanamo

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