Is James Harden the most overrated/softest player today?

[Black and White]

Because Kevin Love with Bynum/Gasol wouldnt make the playoffs in 2012 right... and Harden wouldnt be able to get a better record than 7th seed with refs if having Howard/Gasol/Nash

^^^^ That comment sparked me to make this, how good is Harden really? Or is he just a product of a softer league?

[moe94]

This thread was absolutely needed. Let's just shit on him forever because that never happens.

[Black and White]

This thread was absolutely needed. Let's just shit on him forever because that never happens.

Genuine question because he keeps getting brought up in arguements with people in other eras.

[navy]

How can someone be overrated if they get nothing but hate?

[Milbuck]

Come on guys, let's stop with all the Harden hate. He's a good guy, and deserves a lot of respect for what he's done in the NBA.

[COLOR="White"]Seriously though, **** that fat dirty bearded piece of shit no defense playing Lin hating pseudo-superstar. Someone get the owner of the Beijing Ducks on the phone and get a trade happening.[/COLOR]

[Smook A.]

C'mon bro didn't you make a thread about this 1 month ago?

[Black and White]

C'mon bro didn't you make a thread about this 1 month ago?

Its a different question, I'm talking about why he is considered so good, his game, or is it because he is playing in a soft era.

[TheMarkMadsen]

This thread was absolutely needed. Let's just shit on him forever because that never happens.

no but we do need 20 Kobe hate threads on the first page.

way to be consistent

[Akrazotile]

He's a volume scorer. They are, by definition, overrated.

Some night he lights it up. But then when he doesn't play, the team seems equally capable of succeeding by just moving the ball.

I mean how much more can be said on this topic. Guys who need to take a lot of shots to score points and provide little above average value in any other facet of the game are EXTREMELY overrated by the large segment of dumb fans.

Harden, Melo, Kobe, Arenas, Iverson, Gay, etc. etc.

I mean... How much more is there to say about this stuff. People either get it or they don't. There are ALWAYS gonna be people who are consumed with the flash of being a leading scorer and aren't smart enough to realize what it's actual value is. It is what it is.


My problem with Harden is that he has lethargic body language and doesn't play defense. Nobody individual wins or loses games on his own, but to me his personality just doesn't really say 'winner'. I have a hard time seeing him match the intensity of his opponents in a conference finals or a finals as a leader of a team. I know he played well in a WCF in a sixth man role, but I honestly don't see him being able to do that consistently in big series' as a starter.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Getting to the line is a great skill. And players need that skill. But the truly good players don't expect the calls and instead expect to make their shots.

That is what is missing from Harden's game (IMO). He has a wide open lane to the rim and instead of trying to take it in and make the layup, he would rather try to get domeone to hit him and get to the line. There is a difference between going to the hoop and trying to make the layup and someone fouls you in the process and not even looking to shoot, but instead trying to force the ref to call a foul.

[Warfan]

Maybe, but the guy gets shit on too much, whats the point of continually bashing him, he's still on of the best players in the league and is good at getting to the rim and finishing. He may be the best 2 guard in the league aswell, even though it lacks talent.

[moe94]

no but we do need 20 Kobe hate threads on the first page.

way to be consistent

TROLLS

Kobe is a top 10 player of all time.

Stop getting rustled.

[Black and White]

TROLLS

Kobe is a top 10 player of all time.

Stop getting rustled.

Just have to know how to filter out the crappy posts and move on I guess.

[Im so nba'd out]

rockets wouldn't of sniffed the playoffs last year without him.He is the best sg in the game because no other sg will step up.Im not counting kobe because idk how good he is anymore

[AnaheimLakers24]

Come on guys, let's stop with all the Harden hate. He's a good guy, and deserves a lot of respect for what he's done in the NBA.

[COLOR="White"]Seriously though, **** that fat dirty bearded piece of shit no defense playing Lin hating pseudo-superstar. Someone get the owner of the Beijing Ducks on the phone and get a trade happening.[/COLOR]

whats he done besides spreading flopping like aids