Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady; Are they HOF worthy?

[moe94]

It's hard to put T-Mac's peak on a shitty team up there with Kobe's, when Kobe had a better year then T-mac had while he was peaking.

03 T-Mac > 03 Kobe

[Marlo_Stanfield]

03 T-Mac > 03 Kobe

[PsychoBe]

kobe bryant 2002-2003:

30.3/6.6/5.1/2.1/0.7

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball...file/03/12/182

tracy mcgrady 2002-2003:

32.1/6.5/5.5/1.7/0.7

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...mcgratr01.html

but...03 t-mac > kobe?

[moe94]

That's 04 T-Mac, genius.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

That's 04 T-Mac, genius.

[PsychoBe]

good thing i cite my sources.

[moe94]

What does that even mean, dummy? Are you implying a single person on this site is unaware of that place? Really?

You're still going to suggest he had a better season? Really? I mean, when you got agendas, you got agendas but have some humility. 03 T-Mac is better, offensively. No shame in that. You're treating this like it's some controversial issue when it was a real debate back then. Stop being silly.

[PsychoBe]

What does that even mean, dummy? Are you implying a single person on this site is unaware of that place? Really?

You're still going to suggest he had a better season? Really? I mean, when you got agendas, you got agendas but have some humility. 03 T-Mac is better, offensively. No shame in that. You're treating this like it's some controversial issue when it was a real debate back then. Stop being silly.

i said that because i was corrected. that's why i changed it.

you made a bold assertion that 03 t-mac was indisputably better than 03 kobe, but when i put the numbers in front of you, now it's a debate.

i'm not knocking t-mac for anything, but nobody is going to give him a hof berth just because he "peaked higher than kobe".

at the end of the day t-mac doesn't necessarily have much of a lasting legacy, but years down the line revisionist history may allow him to sneak his way into the hof. it happened for bernard king so it could happen for him.

[Element]

What does that even mean, dummy? Are you implying a single person on this site is unaware of that place? Really?

You're still going to suggest he had a better season? Really? I mean, when you got agendas, you got agendas but have some humility. 03 T-Mac is better, offensively. No shame in that. You're treating this like it's some controversial issue when it was a real debate back then. Stop being silly.

03 Kobe>>>>>>any T-Mac defensively

[moe94]

That is true. Goes without saying.^

It was always a debate because it's a damn opinion. You're grasping now. If I say x is better than y, it's always a subjective statement, thus always up for debate.

[PsychoBe]

That is true. Goes without saying.^

It was always a debate because it's a damn opinion. You're grasping now. If I say x is better than y, it's always a subjective statement, thus always up for debate.

i was being facetious and i know you were too, unfortunately not everyone is as intelligent as you are so i had to do everyone a favor and post the numbers before the "if t-mac was with shaq" arguments and non-sense starts flailing around, as if t-mac didn't have a good thing with vince already before literally forcing his way out of toronto.

[moe94]

Not an argument you want to explore while defending Kobe doe