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NBA Legend
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Not having a quality PF for sure.
From 89-90 thru 93-94, they had Horace Grant as their starting PF. The 93-94 Bulls, without MJ, still went 55-27. They lost Grant to free agency, and dropped like a lead balloon. Even a fully healthy and rested MJ couldn't bring them back in the '95 playoffs. Hell, Grant was playing on the team that beat them.
They then added Dennis Rodman for the second three-peat.
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Coach
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Kobe shot poorly in 2010, so what? If the team wins the series it doesn't matter.
Kobe played poorly in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2010.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
no pippen = first round exit
Yup, Pippen really did all the heavy lifting the first time the Bulls won a playoff series:
Jordan Regular Season: 35 PPG/ 5.5 RPG/ 6 APG/ 3.2 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (54% FG) Won MVP, DPOY, Scoring Title, All Star MVP, First Team All NBA, First Team All Defense
Pippen Regular Season: 7.9 PPG/ 3.8 RPG/ 2.1 APG/ 1.2 SPG (46% FG)
Jordan First Playoff Series Win: [COLOR="Red"]45 PPG/ 5.4 RPG/ 4.8 APG/ 2.8 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (56% FG)[/COLOR]
Pippen in the same series: 10.6 PPG/ 5.2 RPG/ 2.4 APG (47% FG)
Pippen in '88 and Kobe in '97 really carried their teams.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Kobe played poorly in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2010.
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25/5/5 on 41% for Finals
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Paid shill
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Yup, Pippen really did all the heavy lifting the first time the Bulls won a playoff series:
Jordan Regular Season: 35 PPG/ 5.5 RPG/ 6 APG/ 3.2 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (54% FG) Won MVP, DPOY, Scoring Title, All Star MVP, First Team All NBA, First Team All Defense
Pippen Regular Season: 7.9 PPG/ 3.8 RPG/ 2.1 APG/ 1.2 SPG (46% FG)
Jordan First Playoff Series Win: [COLOR="Red"]45 PPG/ 5.4 RPG/ 4.8 APG/ 2.8 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (56% FG)[/COLOR]
Pippen in the same series: 10.6 PPG/ 5.2 RPG/ 2.4 APG (47% FG)
Pippen in '88 and Kobe in '97 really carried their teams.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Yup, Pippen really did all the heavy lifting the first time the Bulls won a playoff series:
Jordan Regular Season: 35 PPG/ 5.5 RPG/ 6 APG/ 3.2 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (54% FG) Won MVP, DPOY, Scoring Title, All Star MVP, First Team All NBA, First Team All Defense
Pippen Regular Season: 7.9 PPG/ 3.8 RPG/ 2.1 APG/ 1.2 SPG (46% FG)
Jordan First Playoff Series Win: [COLOR="Red"]45 PPG/ 5.4 RPG/ 4.8 APG/ 2.8 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (56% FG)[/COLOR]
Pippen in the same series: 10.6 PPG/ 5.2 RPG/ 2.4 APG (47% FG)
Pippen in '88 and Kobe in '97 really carried their teams.
wait so how many series did jordan win without pippen?
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Kobe got injured in the middle of the 2000 finals and still had one of the legendary finals performances in game 4.
I already explained 2004.
He was playing on one knee in 2010 and still led the Lakers over one of best defenses/most stacked teams in league history.
You're just exposing your age. I doubt you even watched 90's ball, much less 80's.
Kobe has no legendary playoff games. Don't fool yourself.
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Playoff Rondo
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Kobe played poorly in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2010.
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Kobe played poorly in 2010? He shot like shit in game 7, but that doesn't change the fact that he was spectacular for for games 1-6, and ended up scoring 10 points and grabbing 4 boards in the 4th of game 7.
He most certainly did not "play poorly".
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... on a leash
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by Doranku
Kobe played poorly in 2010? He shot like shit in game 7, but that doesn't change the fact that he was spectacular for for games 1-6, and ended up scoring 10 points and grabbing 4 boards in the 4th of game 7.
He most certainly did not "play poorly".
Through 6 Games he shot 43%. Yes, poor.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Yup, Pippen really did all the heavy lifting the first time the Bulls won a playoff series:
Jordan Regular Season: 35 PPG/ 5.5 RPG/ 6 APG/ 3.2 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (54% FG) Won MVP, DPOY, Scoring Title, All Star MVP, First Team All NBA, First Team All Defense
Pippen Regular Season: 7.9 PPG/ 3.8 RPG/ 2.1 APG/ 1.2 SPG (46% FG)
Jordan First Playoff Series Win: [COLOR="Red"]45 PPG/ 5.4 RPG/ 4.8 APG/ 2.8 SPG/ 1.6 BPG (56% FG)[/COLOR]
Pippen in the same series: 10.6 PPG/ 5.2 RPG/ 2.4 APG (47% FG)
Pippen in '88 and Kobe in '97 really carried their teams.
Pippen's first start all year as a rookie in Game 5 against the Cavs. I think he made a difference in helping the Bulls advance to the 2nd round being player of the game and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M79eJyW_T0M
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k
Pippen's first start all year as a rookie in Game 5 against the Cavs. I think he made a difference in helping the Bulls advance to the 2nd round being player of the game and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M79eJyW_T0M
Truly, the GOAT
Too bad his 'migraine' 2 years later cost the Bulls a possible 7th championship.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
technically 2003 kobe is the best player jordan ever faced
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Undoubtedly Isiah Thomas and the Bad Boy Pistons.
Is that not good enough?
I'd say Patrick Ewing and Knicks qualified as the biggest rival during the 91-93 years, with the Stockton/Malone Jazz being the major hurdle from 96-98.
Jordan's rivals came and went, and he remained easily the best player on the planet.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
technically 2003 kobe is the best player jordan ever faced
Technically, I can name a bunch of players Jordan faced better than '03 Bean.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Technically, I can name a bunch of players Jordan faced better than '03 Bean.
List all the guards.
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