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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by moe94
List all the guards.
Why does it have to be limited to guards? The dude said player. But Ok, I'll give you one.
'03 T-Mac
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Why does it have to be limited to guards? The dude said player. But Ok, I'll give you one.
'03 T-Mac
I think maybe that's what he meant by technically. Was 03 T-Mac a better overall player? Was he?
Is that it, though?
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by moe94
I think maybe that's what he meant by technically. Was 03 T-Mac a better overall player? Was he?
Is that it, though?
No the guy said '03 Bean was the best player Jordan had ever faced. In '03 alone, Jordan also saw Duncan and TMac. But since you wanted to limit it to guards for some reason, I gave you that. Tracy led the league in scoring, PER, and finished 4th in MVP voting (Kobe 3rd with an infinitely better team, the defending 3-peat champion Lakers). He had a great case for being the best player in the league that season.
And if we're dealing in technicalities- Jordan played the 3 and sometimes 4 during his Wizards stint since they were so terribly undermanned.
But if we're limiting it to just guards, we can at least not make believe Magic Johnson didn't exist.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
He had none in the 90's. None. League was his. Nobody stood a chance.
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Local High School Star
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Magic screwed up in clutch time in game 2 and especially game 4, but it wasn't like he was playing bad all series long. He put up great numbers, terrific all-around play as usual.
Worthy was the one who really choked at the end of game 2 (and he was playing great at that point)
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Decent playground baller
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by Milbuck
Boris ****ing Diaw was embarrassing Lebron for a big chunk of the Finals
This
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Kobe played poorly in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2010.
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2004 and 2008 were poor, rest of the series he played well enough and played a big enough part to win the series with 2010 being his weakest Finals in which the Lakers won.
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Coach
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by ImKobe
2004 and 2008 were poor, rest of the series he played well enough and played a big enough part to win the series with 2010 being his weakest Finals in which the Lakers won.
He played decent enough in 2010, I agree. But he still performed below expectations IMO.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Now I know you are all kids here. The saying in the 80's was the only man to ever stop MJ was Dean Smith. It's the truth and none of you homers knew it.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Young Jordan: Bird, then Magic.
Prime Jordan: Hakeem, then Barkley.
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Bringer of Rain
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by Round Mound
Young Jordan: Bird, then Magic.
Prime Jordan: Hakeem, then Barkley.
- Young MJ?...He played Magic once maybe twice a season?..He played Bird what was 20 - 30 times from 84' - 90'...Bird's Celtics Clearly outplayed MJ's Bull's....and the one on one matchup's favored Bird also. ( and remember in the 80's advanced stats didn't mean Sh!t...it was who's team won that mattered most)
- Young MJ wasn't viewed as a Rival to Magic and Bird....Magic and Bird were on a tier above...established GOAT's.....I would say Young MJ's greatest Rival was Dominique Wilkins....as far as both being amazing young players with similar skillsets...
- Both playing on up and coming young teams trying to reach the mountain top ( Dominique's Hawks actually looked like they were going to be a championship team in the mid 80's)
- Prime MJ had Drexler and Barkley IMO....the closest thing IMO was the 92' season with Drexler....but MJ absolutely put that to rest...LOL.
- Barkley played great in 93'....I guess Barkley was a little threat...but he never played at MJ's Level ....once he won his first title defeating Magic's Lakers....MJ was at the top....except the 1 year he retired.
- the really cool thing was seeing MJ come back in 95' and play against some of the younger players....and watching MJ destroy most of them....although by 1994 it could be argued that MJ was not in his prime....I think he was but that's MO.
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NBA Legend
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
MJ didn't have an adversary because he was on another galaxy compared to his peers.
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Originally Posted by Bandito
MJ didn't have an adversary because he was on another galaxy compared to his peers.
This.
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Great Basketball Mind
Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
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Re: Who Was Jordan's Greatest Adversary?
Closest I'll say is the Bad Boys Pistons. Jordan's biggest obstacle.
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