Intelligence: Nature or Nurture

[Dizzle-2k7]

51% NURTURE
49% NATURE

nurture> all . you can come from any background, but if you get raised and cared for the right way, you can succeed. FACT.

[step_back]

It's a combination of both nature and nurture obviously.

Are we done?

This,

If you think this message board has dumbed you down go and read a book instead of spending most your time on this site.

[miller-time]

nurture> all . you can come from any background, but if you get raised and cared for the right way, you can succeed. FACT.

But it is our nature to be predisposed to both teach and learn

[dr.hee]

This,

If you think this message board has dumbed you down go and read a book instead of spending most your time on this site.

I'm too dumb for read book.

[Dresta]

51% NURTURE
49% NATURE

nurture> all . you can come from any background, but if you get raised and cared for the right way, you can succeed. FACT.

Success does not equal intelligence. Most people who 'succeed' are utter morons. FACT.

[MavsSuperFan]

Success does not equal intelligence. Most people who 'succeed' are utter morons. FACT.

THis post makes me think you are bitter that you have failed

But intelligence isnt the major factor related to success imo. I think social skills are more important than anything. Second is persistence.

[shlver]

The argument is that it is both. It isn't one or the other.

I would argue that it's more nurture and environmental input than biology. Other than cases of severe cognitive deficiencies due to mutations in dendrite/synapse formation and the myriad of proteins associated with them, the biological mechanisms of learning/memorization are the same in all people. The instilling of personality traits and interest of learning at a young age where synaptic plasticity is highest is most likely the potentiator of high intelligence.

[-p.tiddy-]

Success does not equal intelligence. Most people who 'succeed' are utter morons. FACT.

success =/= intelligence, that is true

but I do not think it is a "fact" that the majority of successful people are "utter morons"


Where did you come up with this "fact" exactly? Did you determine this factoid watching an episode of Kim Kardashian's reality show or something?..."ah look at this dumb celeb, that's it most people that figured out a way to win at life are MORONS!!!"

[Jailblazers7]

Success does not equal intelligence. Most people who 'succeed' are utter morons. FACT.

lol how are you going to arguing with people constantly about the definition of words on here and then misuse fact vs. opinion?

[ROCSteady]

Damn yung...Dresta is a bitter, cynical, nihilist muh fcka. Whose more negative and condescending than this dude on ISH? Mayb DeuceWallaces, that's about it

This man walks by flowers and they shrivel and turn to ash...dogs yelp and whine with anxiety... infants feel their first twinge of hopelessness.

I hope dude is straight

[ace23]

Damn yung...Dresta is a bitter, cynical, nihilist muh fcka. Whose more negative and condescending than this dude on ISH? Mayb DeuceWallaces, that's about it

This man walks by flowers and they shrivel and turn to ash...dogs yelp and whine with anxiety... infants feel their first twinge of hopelessness.

I hope dude is straight

Dude is comedy. I enjoy watching him get into it with other posters.

[Bandito]

THis post makes me think you are bitter that you have failed

But intelligence isnt the major factor related to success imo. I think social skills are more important than anything. Second is persistence.

Ex. Snooki

She succedded but no way shes smart. Shes a vet tech btw.

[ROCSteady]

Dude is comedy. I enjoy watching him get into it with other posters.

Same. He's a bright guy for sure, dude is full of thoughts and convictions on pretty much any subject. Somewhat of an abstract thinker, I respect that. His and pt exchanges were gold.

jus sayin, that dude is not only a hardcore intellectual elitist but also extremely full of pessimism. Dare I say he's almost fatalistic in many of his philosophies

Still, he's def no ordinary pawn. I like ppl that don't buy all society's sales techniques hook, line and sinker but sometimes it's like

[Dresta]

But intelligence isnt the major factor related to success imo. I think social skills are more important than anything. Second is persistence.

Spot on. Persistence is very important because no matter how brilliant you are, you are still likely to be met with repeated failures throughout your life.

Social skills, schmoozing and 'playing the game' are really the most important things if you want to get ahead, to gain social esteem, and excel in your chosen field.

It is why so many great intellects are overlooked during their lives, and only gain recognition towards the end, or even after their lives. They tend to hurt the vanities of the mediocrities that inevitably dominate in all fields.

lol how are you going to arguing with people constantly about the definition of words on here and then misuse fact vs. opinion?

How are you not going to understand that i was mimicking the idiom of the guy i quoted? What i said is no less of a 'fact' than what i quoted. Bunch of literalists on here smh.

Nevertheless, a highly intelligent person is always more likely to view themselves as a failure, no matter their social position, because they create higher standards for themselves; while most intelligent people are plagued with self-doubt, morons tend to be afflicted with a self-certainty that defies belief. Therefore, considering 'success' is a largely subjective concept, it seems likely to me that far more morons are likely to regard themselves as being successful than intelligent people.

[DonDadda59]

Damn yung...Dresta is a bitter, cynical, nihilist muh fcka. Whose more negative and condescending than this dude on ISH? Mayb DeuceWallaces, that's about it

This man walks by flowers and they shrivel and turn to ash...dogs yelp and whine with anxiety... infants feel their first twinge of hopelessness.

I hope dude is straight

Dresta admiring the glory of nature