Why did people think Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway were so great

[ZMonkey11]

Real talk - current Steph Curry is better than both these player. I can't even imagine the destruction a team with Shaq + Curry would be + those other Orlando shooters. They'd run amok.

:chuckle:

[20Four]

Oh man...its sad when people couldn't see prime grant in detroit...that niqqa was dunking on everybody....

[JohnFreeman]

Because they were..

[sdot_thadon]

Seems like quite a few here weren't old enough to watch those two play. They aren't being overrated in any way whatsoever. The only way you can realistically knock them down is to say they were an unfulfilled promise of sorts. Penny was on the verge of super stardom before his injury. Grant Hill WAS a superstar before his injury and very well could have been the 1st Lebron had his body held up. I felt like Grant was being groomed to become the face of the Nba eventually. We definitely were robbed of 2 all time great careers that would have helped bridge the eras after Mj retired.

[IncarceratedBob]

Grant didn't have the work ethic and he was an uncle tom so none of the black players liked him and often tried to injure him patrick beverly style

[poido123]

Penny and Hill in their prime would form the top 5 players in today's league.

Penny had potential to be as great as Lebron is.

[20Four]

Penny and Hill in their prime would form the top 5 players in today's league.

Penny had potential to be as great as Lebron is.

^ this

Remember most people here are not old enough to watch those players

I call those foo's youtube watchers

[IncarceratedBob]

Penny had potential to be as great as Lebron is.

straight up disrespecting king james

[zoom17]

straight up disrespecting king james

he said potential how is that disrespectful?

[sdot_thadon]

straight up disrespecting king james

Nah buddy, Penny was dynamic in the same ways Lebron is. I don't think he would have reached that level per se, but it's definitely not a stretch. These guys were ballers.

[edrick]

Nothing overrated about Grant Hill or Penny. Did you even watch either play?

[JohnFreeman]

I think LeBron said he modeled some of his game after Penny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GZ4Qb7koYY

[IncarceratedBob]

he said potential how is that disrespectful?

So Penny had GOAT potential? He's talking out of his ass.

[sdot_thadon]

So Penny had GOAT potential? He's talking out of his ass.

Offensively Penny had some of the same tools Lebron has. He was a great passer whilst being a legitimate scoring threat. Had a post game way earlier in his career than Lebron did and was pretty good scoring in isolation as well. Kobe's role next to Shaq was derived from Penny's. That said he was still developing when his injury happened but he was damn good. The only thing Lebron clearly has over him is a much greater defensive presence.

[poido123]

So Penny had GOAT potential? He's talking out of his ass.

The same way I see Lebron a little overrated, is the same way you see Penny a little overrated.

It's really a matter of bias here. If you really like Lebron, you won't accept that any player is better than him or on his level.

Put Penny on this Heat team and I see the same success, maybe even another title in 2011.