Tim Duncan... What a monster

[Legends66NBA7]

Well both Wilt and Duncan have been career "chokers"...at least by ISH standards. It doesn't matter how many MVPs, or dominating post-seasons. It all comes down to one missed layup or FT.

Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.

29/13/5/2/2 tonight as well

I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Hondo: 8
Kobe: 5

Doesn't fit the bill since Hondo's not a league MVP

[DonDadda59]

How about Wilt's and Duncan's Finals game seven's FG%'s? Chamberlain shot .710 in his. Duncan has shot .400 in his.

Wilt regular season career PPG: 30

Wilt Playoffs career PPG: 22.5

Wilt Finals career PPG: 18.8


Where were the 40-50 PPG playoffs/finals? Would've really come in handy when trying to not be a career choke artist, no?

[LAZERUSS]

124/331 (37.5%) in his NBA Finals career

Kobe's FG%'s in his Finals...

99-00
Regular season 22.5 ppg .468 FG%
Finals 15.6 ppg .367 FG%
Last Game of Series .296 FG%

00-01
Regular season 28.5 ppg .464 FG%
Finals 24.6 ppg .415 FG%
Last Game of the series, .389 FG%

01-02
Regular season 25.2 ppg .469
Finals 26.8 ppg .514
Last Game .438 FG%

03-04
Regular season 24.0 ppg .438
Finals 22.6 ppg .381
Last Game .333

07-08
Regular season 28.3 ppg .459
Finals 25.7 ppg .405
Last game of the Finals, .318 FG%

08-09
Regular season 26.8 ppg .467
Finals 32.4 ppg .430
Last game of the Finals, .435

09-10
Regular season 27.0 ppg .456
Finals 28.6 ppg .405
Game seven of the Finals... .250 F%.


Other noteables:


97-98
Swept by Utah 4-0.
Kobe averages 10.0 ppg on a .367 FG%

98-99
Swept by San Antonio 4-0
Last game of the series : Kobe 16 points on a .438 FG%

02-03
Lose to Spurs in WCF's, 4-2.
Last game loss by a score of 110-82 (Kobe with 20 points in a season in which he averaged 30 ppg)

03-04 Finals
Heavily favored Lakers lose to Pistons, 4-1.
In the clinching game five loss Kobe shoots .333 in a 100-87 loss (and LA was down 23 going into 4th quarter)

04-05
team goes 34-48 and misses playoffs

05-06
Regular season 35.4 ppg .450
Playoffs 27.9 ppg .497
Last game (7) 24 points in a 121-90 loss (after blowing a 3-1 series lead)

06-07
Team goes 42-40
Loses in first round to Suns, 4-1.
Last game of that series, Kobe shoots .394 from the floor

07-08
Lakers are blown out by Celts in Finals.
In game four the Lakers blow a 23 point lead, and lose, in a game in which Kobe shot .316 from the field.
In the clinching game six loss, the Lakers lose by a Finals record margin of 131-92. Kobe shoots .318 from the floor.

10-11
Lakers with HCA are swept by the Mavs, 4-0.
In the clinching game four loss, LA loses 122-86. Kobe shoots .389 from the field.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.



I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

Wait..why Karl Malone and not Wilt?

Wilt has the highest choking rating ever, guess who's #2? Karl Malone

[PieceOfFelt]

Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.



I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

Sshhhhhhhh logic is not met with open arms around here.

[Jameerthefear]

124/331 (37.5%) in his NBA Finals career

DAMN. I think we know the truth.

[Deuce Bigalow]

More brilliant analysis. What are you doing here? You should be getting paid for this.

Who are you?

[T_L_P]

I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

I guess people just get bored with having one player being called the greatest.

People would do the same with Jordan if there was a SG even close to him

[sejoon101]

Aren't you the guy who writes essays defending Wilt Chamberlain of all people?

[PieceOfFelt]

Who are you?

I'm the guy who is able to provide comments that aren't mind numbingly stupid. Maybe someday if you decide to activate that tiny little organ in your skull you'll be one of those guys too.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I'm the guy who is able to provide comments that aren't mind numbingly stupid. Maybe someday if you decide to activate that tiny little organ in your skull you'll be one of those guys too.

I backed up my opinions with facts numerous times newbie.

[LAZERUSS]

Wilt regular season career PPG: 30

Wilt Playoffs career PPG: 22.5

Wilt Finals career PPG: 18.8


Where were the 40-50 PPG playoffs/finals? Would've really come in handy when trying to not be a career choke artist, no?

How about FOUR playoff's of 33.2 ppg, 34.7 ppg, 35.0 ppg, and 37.0 ppg? How about playoff series of 37.0 ppg, 37.0 ppg, 38.6 ppg, and 38.7 ppg? How about playoff series against RUSSELL of 28-30, 29-28, 30-26, 33-26, and 30-31? Or a playoff series against RUSSELL of 22-32-10 .556? How about FOUR 50+ point playoff games, including THREE in "MUST-WIN" games (and one against RUSSELL)? Or another 46-34 "must-win" playoff game (against RUSSELL)? And a Finals "must-win" game of 45-27?

A "scoring" Wilt AVERAGED 30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, and shot .515 from the field (in post-seasons that shot .421 on average)...in his first 67 games...COMBINED. Go ahead...find me another "GOAT" who put up even ONE SERIES with a 30-27-5 .515 (shooting nearly 10% above the league average), and blocking 8+ bpg. Hell, find me a "GOAT" who had even ONE GAME with that stat-line.

And what about Chamberlain's OPPOSING CENTERS? How about Russell with FG%'s of .399, .398, .386, and even .358 against Wilt in four of their post-season series (and Chamberlain outshooting him by staggering margins in those series.) Or Wilt facing Thurmond in three playoff series, and outshooting him by margins of .500 to .392; .611 to .373, and .560 to .343? Or HOFer Bellamy shooting .541 against the NBA in '68...and being outscored and outshot by Wilt in the playoffs by a .584 to .421 margin? Or Kareem shooting .577 and .574 in the '71 and '72 regular seasons...and then .481 and .457 (and only .414 in the last four games of that series) against Wilt?

Or Wilt playing in 29 post-season series, and not being outrebounded in ANY of them? Or Wilt being outshot from the field in ONE of them, (and in that one series, Wilt missed 20 shots, while a PEAK Kareem missed 107...many blocked by an old Wilt.)

Again, Chamberlain arguably outplayed his OPPOSING CENTER in ALL of his 29 post-season series. In fact, he was the best player on the floor in the vast majority of them.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

if only he were more of an arrogant prick, maybe then he'd get more recognition for his talent. In all seriousness I got into basketball around 2002, it's amazing he is still on e of the most impactful players.

[DonDadda59]

^ Can you give me the boiled down version?

I ain't reading all that shit.