It's seriously time to trade Kyrie Irving

[BlackVVaves]

I'm gonna ignore PB because he's a troll and isn't actually a cavs fan but this is just ignorant. He's a better defender than Steph Curry that's for sure, and he's improved his passing and cut down on turnovers quite well.

Edit: In fact, he has a better A/TO ration than Steph Curry.

Curry > Irving

[B-Easy8]

Crazy overrated.

Cavs are trash.

Bron knew what was what.

[Mass Debator]

Rubio + Pek for Kyrie and Andy!!!

[aj1987]

Rubio + Pek for Kyrie and Andy!!!

Why the heck would the Wolves do that? Pekovic >>>>> Andy V. and Rubio </= Irving.

[JohnFreeman]

I will trade Thomas + filler for Irving

[FatComputerNerd]

Wtf, is this a serious thread?

[UK2K]

8 against the cap and he will EASILY average 15/8-9 on that cavs team. he has 17/5 per 36 on an ultra selfish rockets team and he is an unselfish player

15 against the cap if hes traded.

God you are so on Lin's balls... but dont really know what youre talking about.

I see you see you are absent from the thread I started of Lin's first game as a starters. 1-9.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

15 against the cap if hes traded.

God you are so on Lin's balls... but dont really know what youre talking about.

I see you see you are absent from the thread I started of Lin's first game as a starters. 1-9.

one game idiot.
i already admitted he sucked monkey balls

[Mass Debator]

Why the heck would the Wolves do that? Pekovic >>>>> Andy V. and Rubio </= Irving.

Rubio sucks ass and basically has hit his ceiling already. Kyrie just needs a change of scenery and a great big like Love.
Varejao can give you some good role playing minutes before his contract is up to free up some cap space for a real center that can provide rim protection.

Love + Pek combo will never work. They need to look elsewhere if they want Love to stay put in Minny.

[KungFuJoe]

Holy crap how far has this guy fallen? Now, I admit I don't follow Irving very much and I can't stand guys who don't play defense, but wasn't it just last year when everyone on ISH was proclaiming this guy to be the best PG in the league and a top 5 player in a few more seasons?

[FatComputerNerd]

Holy crap how far has this guy fallen? Now, I admit I don't follow Irving very much and I can't stand guys who don't play defense, but wasn't it just last year when everyone on ISH was proclaiming this guy to be the best PG in the league and a top 5 player in a few more seasons?

He's had a rough time since his injury last season, with his FG % dropping. Part of this is also due to him being double and triple teamed every time he has the ball since opponents fear him.

Add Waiters playing well with him out again now, and all of a sudden Kyrie is a scrub who we should trade.

Never mind the fact that he was having a pretty decent season this year before the injury, including winning the all-star game MVP.

[(e)]

Not time to trade him, but I think he's overrated.

I've had some hate for him pretty bad this year, I think it's sad that he couldn't lead his team to the Playoffs in the East. John Wall is having no issues doing that this year.

Wall > Irving

[DukeDelonte13]

Not time to trade him, but I think he's overrated.

I've had some hate for him pretty bad this year, I think it's sad that he couldn't lead his team to the Playoffs in the East. John Wall is having no issues doing that this year.

Wall > Irving

Wall is leading his team to playoffs in his 4th year.

Kyrie has been in for 3.

This past season Wall > Kyrie but the prior two seasons Kyrie was better than Wall.

[secund2nun]

Is he good, can the Heat get him?

Honestly I would rather take a center over him especially since Irving will cost a lot more than a good center because somehow Irving is a "star". A center is much more valuable to Miami then a spot up 3 point shooter (which is what Irving would be used as on Miami).

[secund2nun]

Holy crap how far has this guy fallen? Now, I admit I don't follow Irving very much and I can't stand guys who don't play defense, but wasn't it just last year when everyone on ISH was proclaiming this guy to be the best PG in the league and a top 5 player in a few more seasons?

Yes people claimed that but most people are idiots and have no idea what they are talking about. They just fall in love with flashy wing players. I remember I was in the minority believing that Anthony Davis was the best young player in the NBA by far.

ESPN rated Irving the 8th best player in the NBA to start this season. He may not even be a top 8 PG in the NBA right now