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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY

    Dont see whats funny about that or unbelievable

    2 Finals MVPS,4 Rings is damn good
    not many players have that
    Thats Top 10-15 material easily


    But some of yall
    PG Top 70 WTF? or Harden Top 60?

    NO NO NO

    Though if Dirk is somehow Top 20-25 with 1 Ring
    Chris Paul would be there as well then going by that logic

    Durant Top 20 with 1 RING,1 Ring
    WTF?
    His resume with 1 Ring does not surpass 25 players let alone in top 20

    LeBron,Wade,KG,Pierce,Duncan,Tony Parker,Dirk,Kobe
    and those are the players still Playing

    not to mention
    Jordan,Russell,Wilt,Kareem,Magic,Bird,Shaq,Hakeem, Oscar,Isiah,
    Havlicek,West,Dr J,Moses Malone,Pippen

    Thats 23 players at MINIMUM with a better resume still

    KD isnt putting up Wilt,Oscar numbers to justify in Goat rank with 1 Ring
    Otherwise Stockton,Malone,Barkley,Thurmond would all be top 20 then

    Ease up with Rankings
    Its like the past players get overlooked and current hyped and
    overrated huge
    Come on

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Honestly they'd have to get FMVP and then I can see some.changes happening.

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash31
    Dont see whats funny about that or unbelievable

    2 Finals MVPS,4 Rings is damn good
    not many players have that
    Thats Top 10-15 material easily
    wade's rings are heavily discounted. he's basically a role player in last championship and majority of this season he's a complete nonfactor

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe94
    5x first team (including this year)
    scoring titles
    MVP (he will clearly win)
    Finals MVP
    7 years in the league

    That's good for top 25 all time?
    That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. Are you telling me that it's impossible to be top 25 all time by the age of 25? Is it about nothing but longevity? He's having a season that's up there with the peaks of the top 5-6 player ever.

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Wade will never be on the level of Kobe Bean Bryant. From a skills/peak wise Kobe unfortunately was better and it really wasn't close, then look at the accolades..Wade never sniffed an MVP, then you look at the All NBA, All D teams made and Kobe is raised to an even higher level. Wade would have win 2 more rings whilst winning FMVP to achieve KB's level, which we all know will never happen.

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41

    Duncan? He doesn't move anywhere for me. I have him 4th all time...well, depending on how he plays I could see myself moving him over Magic for 3rd all time, but he would have to play great in order for that. Further solidifies himself as top 5 all time if they win.

    Duncan 4th all time, really? I love the guy, but you overrate him a lot IMHO. A guy ranked 4th all time has a case for GOAT and Duncan doesn't. I like to look at how guys were perceived during their prime. With guys like Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Bird, Wilt and even Shaq, you had people defending them or at least putting them in the discussion for best player ever. Hell, even Kobe had more of that conversation than Duncan.

    I think a title would change put Duncan definetly ahead of Kobe, Shaq, Oscar, Hakeem, for those who don't have him already there and amplify the difference for those who still have Kobe and Shaq ahead of him.

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    To make it easier to reply to the OP.

    My top 30 (might be missing someone):

    1. Jordan
    2. Kareem
    3. Russell
    4. Wilt
    5. Magic
    6. Bird
    7. Kobe
    8. Shaq
    9. Duncan
    10. Lebron
    11. Olajuwon
    12. Oscar Robertson
    13. Jerry West
    14. Moses Malone
    15. Dr. J
    16. Elgin Baylor
    17. Havlicek
    18. Isaiah Thomas
    19. Bob Pettitt
    20. Karl Malone.
    21. Charles Barkley
    22. George Mikan
    23. Scottie Pippen
    24. Kevin Garnett
    25. Dirk
    26. John Stockton
    27. Bob Cousy
    28. David Robinson
    39. Rick Barry
    30. Dave Cowens

    Lebron - I love Kobe, but 4 straight finals and a 3 peat as the main man jumps Lebron to number 7, ahead of Kobe, Shaq and Duncan for best player post Jordan. It would not be crazy to consider him top 4, only behind Jordan, Kareem and Russell.

    Chris Paul - He already has a great career. Leading the Clippers to the title, stopping Lebron from 3 peating? I think he might becomes top 25 and top 4 pg only behind Magic, Oscar and Isaiah Thomas.

    Kevin Durant - Top 20 is fair. Dude is a monster and one of the very best scorers ever already.

    I don't really care about the others. I don't think a guy like Howard becomes top 30 or 40... He is no better than Ewing was. A title would not change that.





    EDIT - might be underrating Dirk and KG...

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
    That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. .
    Hasn't happened yet.

    And is it really?

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
    Durant is definitely top 25 all time with a FMVP this year
    No

    Top 40-50 sure
    Top 25 Hell No
    7 years in,His current stats and resume with 1 ring and Finals No

    Heres 25 in no order that would still be ahead

    1--Wilt
    2--Jordan
    3--Russell
    4--Kareem
    5--Magic
    6--Bird
    7--Shaq
    8--Duncan
    9--Kobe
    10--Hakeem
    11--Oscar
    12--LeBron
    13--Wade
    14--Garnett
    15--Dirk
    16--Isiah
    17--Havlicek
    18--Pippen
    19--Pierce
    20--Dr J
    21--KC Jones
    22--Thurmond
    23--Kidd
    24--West
    25--Stockton

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
    That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. Are you telling me that it's impossible to be top 25 all time by the age of 25? Is it about nothing but longevity? He's having a season that's up there with the peaks of the top 5-6 player ever.

    Greatest Resume for First 7 years hmm

    Bill Russell,Wilt Chamberlain,Magic Johnson,Larry Bird,Michael Jordan,Shaq,West,Isiah Thomas,Kareem,Dwyane Wade

    Not Even Top 10

    Its not impossible for a 25 year old to be top 5 or somebody after 7 years
    but they would have to put up huge stats and have a Top 20 Resume with it
    in 7 years

    Durants good but hes not GOAT level playing good like that at least Not YET

    You said hes having a SEASON up to Top5-6 level---/Hell NO
    and thats a season,the TOP 5 had Careers worthy of TOP 5-6 Level

    One season is equal to Top 20 already?

    In that case Durant is far from top 25

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    how lebron keep climbing on kids imaginary ranks by adding asterisks is beyond me..

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
    wade's rings are heavily discounted. he's basically a role player in last championship and majority of this season he's a complete nonfactor

    So that would mean Kobes First 2 are basically worth Nothing then by That Logic

    Majority of season,Didnt know almost 20 pts with 5,5 and 1.5 steals on 52+% fg is a nonfactor hmm
    But again Thats regular season,
    Finals is Where it counts otherwise Carmelo Anthony must be a goat level talent already right

    Did you even watch the last two FINALS?

    Come on,Hate the Heat and Wade all you want but you cant be that
    ignorant can you?

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash31
    So that would mean Kobes First 2 are basically worth Nothing then by That Logic
    Kobe's second ring was in 2001, was it not?

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
    Wade will never be on the level of Kobe Bean Bryant. From a skills/peak wise Kobe unfortunately was better and it really wasn't close, then look at the accolades..Wade never sniffed an MVP, then you look at the All NBA, All D teams made and Kobe is raised to an even higher level. Wade would have win 2 more rings whilst winning FMVP to achieve KB's level, which we all know will never happen.
    Skills Wise,Kobe is better at scoring,Everything Else Wade is better

    Wade was 3rd in DPOY and MVP in 2009 man.
    When has Kobe been TOP3 in DPOY?

    And you cant be serious with Kobes all D First Teams,some of them he deserved but the last several come on,Kobes reputation and hype got those not his skill

    And if Wade does win 2 Rings with Finals MVPS
    How exactly would Kobe be way higher

    5 Rings,3 Finals MvPS with So far Better stats than Kobe in Finals

    Kobes higher but 2 more for Wade And Wade could be argued as higher

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe94
    Kobe's second ring was in 2001, was it not?
    I dont see the point
    Shaq IN First 2 Finals was CLEAR CUT MVP by far
    Wade had a case for Finals MVP last year before Game 7 over LeBron

    Kobe had No Case over Shaq

    Finals Not Playoffs

    I like Kobe too but if wade was a glorified role player in 2012 and 2013
    then Kobe was too in 2000 and 2001

    Look at the difference between Kobe and Shaq in
    2000 and 2001 in Finals and between Wade and LeBron in 2012 and 2013 in Finals
    Wade and LeBron are closer while Shaqs is way Higher than Kobes
    just saying

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    Default Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash31
    I dont see the point
    Shaq IN First 2 Finals was CLEAR CUT MVP by far
    Wade had a case for Finals MVP last year before Game 7 over LeBron

    Kobe had No Case over Shaq

    Finals Not Playoffs

    I like Kobe too but if wade was a glorified role player in 2012 and 2013
    then Kobe was too in 2000 and 2001

    Look at the difference between Kobe and Shaq in
    2000 and 2001 in Finals and between Wade and LeBron in 2012 and 2013 in Finals
    Wade and LeBron are close while Shaqs is way way Higher than Kobes
    just saying
    Kobe was a flat out superstar by 2001.

    Dude was 29/7/6 on 47% shooting in the playoffs

    Role player, my ass. I mean, we can look at Wade's stats if you'd like. They're not comparable.

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