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Local High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by STATUTORY
Dont see whats funny about that or unbelievable
2 Finals MVPS,4 Rings is damn good
not many players have that
Thats Top 10-15 material easily
But some of yall
PG Top 70 WTF? or Harden Top 60?
NO NO NO
Though if Dirk is somehow Top 20-25 with 1 Ring
Chris Paul would be there as well then going by that logic
Durant Top 20 with 1 RING,1 Ring
WTF?
His resume with 1 Ring does not surpass 25 players let alone in top 20
LeBron,Wade,KG,Pierce,Duncan,Tony Parker,Dirk,Kobe
and those are the players still Playing
not to mention
Jordan,Russell,Wilt,Kareem,Magic,Bird,Shaq,Hakeem, Oscar,Isiah,
Havlicek,West,Dr J,Moses Malone,Pippen
Thats 23 players at MINIMUM with a better resume still
KD isnt putting up Wilt,Oscar numbers to justify in Goat rank with 1 Ring
Otherwise Stockton,Malone,Barkley,Thurmond would all be top 20 then
Ease up with Rankings
Its like the past players get overlooked and current hyped and
overrated huge
Come on
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Cmon Rox
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Honestly they'd have to get FMVP and then I can see some.changes happening.
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Bear Chested Da Brawn
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by Flash31
Dont see whats funny about that or unbelievable
2 Finals MVPS,4 Rings is damn good
not many players have that
Thats Top 10-15 material easily
wade's rings are heavily discounted. he's basically a role player in last championship and majority of this season he's a complete nonfactor
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Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by moe94
5x first team (including this year)
scoring titles
MVP (he will clearly win)
Finals MVP
7 years in the league
That's good for top 25 all time?
That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. Are you telling me that it's impossible to be top 25 all time by the age of 25? Is it about nothing but longevity? He's having a season that's up there with the peaks of the top 5-6 player ever.
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Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Wade will never be on the level of Kobe Bean Bryant. From a skills/peak wise Kobe unfortunately was better and it really wasn't close, then look at the accolades..Wade never sniffed an MVP, then you look at the All NBA, All D teams made and Kobe is raised to an even higher level. Wade would have win 2 more rings whilst winning FMVP to achieve KB's level, which we all know will never happen.
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National High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
Duncan? He doesn't move anywhere for me. I have him 4th all time...well, depending on how he plays I could see myself moving him over Magic for 3rd all time, but he would have to play great in order for that. Further solidifies himself as top 5 all time if they win.
Duncan 4th all time, really? I love the guy, but you overrate him a lot IMHO. A guy ranked 4th all time has a case for GOAT and Duncan doesn't. I like to look at how guys were perceived during their prime. With guys like Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Bird, Wilt and even Shaq, you had people defending them or at least putting them in the discussion for best player ever. Hell, even Kobe had more of that conversation than Duncan.
I think a title would change put Duncan definetly ahead of Kobe, Shaq, Oscar, Hakeem, for those who don't have him already there and amplify the difference for those who still have Kobe and Shaq ahead of him.
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To make it easier to reply to the OP.
My top 30 (might be missing someone):
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Kobe
8. Shaq
9. Duncan
10. Lebron
11. Olajuwon
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Jerry West
14. Moses Malone
15. Dr. J
16. Elgin Baylor
17. Havlicek
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Bob Pettitt
20. Karl Malone.
21. Charles Barkley
22. George Mikan
23. Scottie Pippen
24. Kevin Garnett
25. Dirk
26. John Stockton
27. Bob Cousy
28. David Robinson
39. Rick Barry
30. Dave Cowens
Lebron - I love Kobe, but 4 straight finals and a 3 peat as the main man jumps Lebron to number 7, ahead of Kobe, Shaq and Duncan for best player post Jordan. It would not be crazy to consider him top 4, only behind Jordan, Kareem and Russell.
Chris Paul - He already has a great career. Leading the Clippers to the title, stopping Lebron from 3 peating? I think he might becomes top 25 and top 4 pg only behind Magic, Oscar and Isaiah Thomas.
Kevin Durant - Top 20 is fair. Dude is a monster and one of the very best scorers ever already.
I don't really care about the others. I don't think a guy like Howard becomes top 30 or 40... He is no better than Ewing was. A title would not change that.
EDIT - might be underrating Dirk and KG...
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Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. .
Hasn't happened yet.
And is it really?
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Local High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
Durant is definitely top 25 all time with a FMVP this year
No
Top 40-50 sure
Top 25 Hell No
7 years in,His current stats and resume with 1 ring and Finals No
Heres 25 in no order that would still be ahead
1--Wilt
2--Jordan
3--Russell
4--Kareem
5--Magic
6--Bird
7--Shaq
8--Duncan
9--Kobe
10--Hakeem
11--Oscar
12--LeBron
13--Wade
14--Garnett
15--Dirk
16--Isiah
17--Havlicek
18--Pippen
19--Pierce
20--Dr J
21--KC Jones
22--Thurmond
23--Kidd
24--West
25--Stockton
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Local High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. Are you telling me that it's impossible to be top 25 all time by the age of 25? Is it about nothing but longevity? He's having a season that's up there with the peaks of the top 5-6 player ever.
Greatest Resume for First 7 years hmm
Bill Russell,Wilt Chamberlain,Magic Johnson,Larry Bird,Michael Jordan,Shaq,West,Isiah Thomas,Kareem,Dwyane Wade
Not Even Top 10
Its not impossible for a 25 year old to be top 5 or somebody after 7 years
but they would have to put up huge stats and have a Top 20 Resume with it
in 7 years
Durants good but hes not GOAT level playing good like that at least Not YET
You said hes having a SEASON up to Top5-6 level---/Hell NO
and thats a season,the TOP 5 had Careers worthy of TOP 5-6 Level
One season is equal to Top 20 already?
In that case Durant is far from top 25
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well well well
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
how lebron keep climbing on kids imaginary ranks by adding asterisks is beyond me..
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Local High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by STATUTORY
wade's rings are heavily discounted. he's basically a role player in last championship and majority of this season he's a complete nonfactor
So that would mean Kobes First 2 are basically worth Nothing then by That Logic
Majority of season,Didnt know almost 20 pts with 5,5 and 1.5 steals on 52+% fg is a nonfactor hmm
But again Thats regular season,
Finals is Where it counts otherwise Carmelo Anthony must be a goat level talent already right
Did you even watch the last two FINALS?
Come on,Hate the Heat and Wade all you want but you cant be that
ignorant can you?
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Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by Flash31
So that would mean Kobes First 2 are basically worth Nothing then by That Logic
Kobe's second ring was in 2001, was it not?
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Local High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
Wade will never be on the level of Kobe Bean Bryant. From a skills/peak wise Kobe unfortunately was better and it really wasn't close, then look at the accolades..Wade never sniffed an MVP, then you look at the All NBA, All D teams made and Kobe is raised to an even higher level. Wade would have win 2 more rings whilst winning FMVP to achieve KB's level, which we all know will never happen.
Skills Wise,Kobe is better at scoring,Everything Else Wade is better
Wade was 3rd in DPOY and MVP in 2009 man.
When has Kobe been TOP3 in DPOY?
And you cant be serious with Kobes all D First Teams,some of them he deserved but the last several come on,Kobes reputation and hype got those not his skill
And if Wade does win 2 Rings with Finals MVPS
How exactly would Kobe be way higher
5 Rings,3 Finals MvPS with So far Better stats than Kobe in Finals
Kobes higher but 2 more for Wade And Wade could be argued as higher
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Local High School Star
Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by moe94
Kobe's second ring was in 2001, was it not?
I dont see the point
Shaq IN First 2 Finals was CLEAR CUT MVP by far
Wade had a case for Finals MVP last year before Game 7 over LeBron
Kobe had No Case over Shaq
Finals Not Playoffs
I like Kobe too but if wade was a glorified role player in 2012 and 2013
then Kobe was too in 2000 and 2001
Look at the difference between Kobe and Shaq in
2000 and 2001 in Finals and between Wade and LeBron in 2012 and 2013 in Finals
Wade and LeBron are closer while Shaqs is way Higher than Kobes
just saying
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Re: Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?
Originally Posted by Flash31
I dont see the point
Shaq IN First 2 Finals was CLEAR CUT MVP by far
Wade had a case for Finals MVP last year before Game 7 over LeBron
Kobe had No Case over Shaq
Finals Not Playoffs
I like Kobe too but if wade was a glorified role player in 2012 and 2013
then Kobe was too in 2000 and 2001
Look at the difference between Kobe and Shaq in
2000 and 2001 in Finals and between Wade and LeBron in 2012 and 2013 in Finals
Wade and LeBron are close while Shaqs is way way Higher than Kobes
just saying
Kobe was a flat out superstar by 2001.
Dude was 29/7/6 on 47% shooting in the playoffs
Role player, my ass. I mean, we can look at Wade's stats if you'd like. They're not comparable.
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