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Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by Yankstar
Similar to 2013 Kobe or 2012 Wade. Still elite but on the decline, borderline top 10
2013 Kobe didn't look like he was on the decline, he had his best individual year since 07, he was a monster last year. Agree with Wade though.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by ImKobe
2013 Kobe didn't look like he was on the decline, he had his best individual year since 07, he was a monster last year. Agree with Wade though.
Yea, but Dirk is still playing within the team concept and while his defense had dropped off...he is still trying hard defensively every night.
If Dirk went out there just trying to score points and rested defensively like Kobe did in 13.
He could easily score 4 or 5 more points per game on maybe slightly less overall efficiency. His raw numbers would be better across the board as well if he played more minutes. He'd wear down by the end of the year and probably would get hurt like Kobe did, but he'd have better numbers.
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#MFFL
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
true. the man still is almost 36 and can still carry a team to a really good record.
youre lying if you say you would rather have a lma or love over dirk in a playoff series
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Learning to shoot layups
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
OK. Dirk is a shooting god.... I will admit that.
BUT Dirk is in the top 10 worst defensive players in the game today (and
hardly anyone plays defense any more... so he's bad)
I think it is ridiculous to talk about him being top 10 anything!!!!!!!!! His
D is so terrible, it moves him down every list except shooting.
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OH! Blocked By James!!
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by anyonebutmiami
OK. Dirk is a shooting god.... I will admit that.
BUT Dirk is in the top 10 worst defensive players in the game today (and
hardly anyone plays defense any more... so he's bad)
I think it is ridiculous to talk about him being top 10 anything!!!!!!!!! His
D is so terrible, it moves him down every list except shooting.
Uhh... No one bother responding to this kid.
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Learning to shoot layups
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by DirkNowitzki41
true. the man still is almost 36 and can still carry a team to a really good record.
youre lying if you say you would rather have a lma or love over dirk in a playoff series
I'd rather have Taj Gibson than Dirk!!! LMA and Love are the two best
PFs in the game today... not take either over Dirk is unbelievable....
talk about being biased.....
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
False. He is still one of the best overall in the league and can look like he is top 10 caliber on any given night though.
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#MFFL
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by anyonebutmiami
I'd rather have Taj Gibson than Dirk!!! LMA and Love are the two best
PFs in the game today... not take either over Dirk is unbelievable....
talk about being biased.....
taj gibson over dirk? yeah, okay...
if you value defense so much then why the hell would u take love? he is a much worse defender than dirk.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by anyonebutmiami
OK. Dirk is a shooting god.... I will admit that.
BUT Dirk is in the top 10 worst defensive players in the game today (and
hardly anyone plays defense any more... so he's bad)
I think it is ridiculous to talk about him being top 10 anything!!!!!!!!! His
D is so terrible, it moves him down every list except shooting.
This isn't even true.
Take a look at the Mavs defensive rating this year. We are the 23rd worst defense in the league. That is bad, but look at our team...it's actually amazing we aren't the worst. Calderon is probably the worst pg defender, Ellis is great at getting steals, but his team defense is poor, Marion is solid still, but not great...we don't have a center really. Dalembert has picked it up lately, but we have played Wright and Blair a ton at center.
Considering we don't have good perimeter defenders...and our center play is very poor. It's actually an accomplishment to only be 23rd worst.
The Mavs defense gets worse with Dirk not on the court as well.
Dirk has definitely dropped off defensively and in terms of rebounding, but he is not one of the worst defensive players in the league...and actually makes a positive impact on our defense this year...mainly because of his size because we don't have shit at center.
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OH! Blocked By James!!
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
This isn't even true.
Take a look at the Mavs defensive rating this year. We are the 23rd worst defense in the league. That is bad, but look at our team...it's actually amazing we aren't the worst. Calderon is probably the worst pg defender, Ellis is great at getting steals, but his team defense is poor, Marion is solid still, but not great...we don't have a center really. Dalembert has picked it up lately, but we have played Wright and Blair a ton at center.
Considering we don't have good perimeter defenders...and our center play is very poor. It's actually an accomplishment to only be 23rd worst.
The Mavs defense gets worse with Dirk not on the court as well.
Dirk has definitely dropped off defensively and in terms of rebounding, but he is not one of the worst defensive players in the league...and actually makes a positive impact on our defense this year...mainly because of his size because we don't have shit at center.
Don't hurt his brain, dude.
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Two-Time Oscar MVP
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
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Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by ImKobe
2013 Kobe didn't look like he was on the decline, he had his best individual year since 07, he was a monster last year. Agree with Wade though.
If you're ignoring defense that is... everybody had like an and-one highlight video on the guy
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the Sho Kosugi of ISH
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
yes, Dirk is still a top-10 player in the NBA
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: True or false Dirk is still a top 10 player
Originally Posted by Yankstar
Similar to 2013 Kobe or 2012 Wade. Still elite but on the decline, borderline top 10
Yup. He still has his moments when he impacts a game and is by far the best player on the court. But the moments are getting fewer and farther between.
He needs a lot more from his teammates now. He can't carry the Mavs to the playoffs no matter the roster anymore.
So... I'd say he is somewhere between Top 10-15. But still has nights where he is Top 10 for sure.
It has been fun watching him this season though. And I'll gladly take a couple more.
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