would heat be better without wade?

[Rose'sACL]

Replace wade with asik plus an okay spot up shooter. Do heat get better?

[IncarceratedBob]

Probably not. Lebron loses his security blanket

[plowking]

Nah, Wade is a big reason why we get easy buckets. His and Lebron's defensive style works so well together.

For all the people saying they aren't an optimal pairing, or not as effective together... they really don't know what they're talking about.
3 finals, 2 championships, great defense and working great off each other on the offensive side, all in 3 years.

[Jlamb47]

They get worse dude. Wade defense is what causes turnovers and stops.
I think Lebron has more floor space to work with when Wades not on the court but Wade brings alot to the table. He can rebound and pass and attack the basket.

[Rose'sACL]

They get worse dude. Wade defense is what causes turnovers and stops.
I think Lebron has more floor space to work with when Wades not on the court but Wade brings alot to the table. He can rebound and pass and attack the basket.

Wade gambles a lot on defense. A good big man defender plus another young spot up shooter who can hit open 3s would make Miami better.
Wade's injuries woes are the reason I made this thread. Healthy wade is still a top 10 player but its and buts are not what I am did using here.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

of course they get better with one of the best shot blockers,rebounders AND defenders in the league protecting the ring.
while Asik has butterfingers he still manages to score around 10 PPG on high efficency.
Heat with Asik and a great spot up shooter and ok defender would absolute own this league.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

also Wades constant sitting out of games then coming back then sitting out again is what causes the heat to have MAJOR chemistry problems.
Wade often comes back after sitting out a few games and takes 3-4 more shots in the first half then LeBron.
thats insane.
Heat are at their best when Wade plays completely off LeBron and focuses on defense to shut down their best guard.
he can then take over as soon as lebron sits.
wade is a player who doesnt need rythm, hes instant offense. LEBron is a rythm player. honestly at this point Wade should be a sixth man, that would be perfect.
Wade as sixth man and a guy like Asik or Gortat and the Heat are steamrolling this league next year

[fpliii]

also Wades constant sitting out of games then coming back then sitting out again is what causes the heat to have MAJOR chemistry problems.
Wade often comes back after sitting out a few games and takes 3-4 more shots in the first half then LeBron.
thats insane.
Heat are at their best when Wade plays completely off LeBron and focuses on defense to shut down their best guard.
he can then take over as soon as lebron sits.
wade is a player who doesnt need rythm, hes instant offense. LEBron is a rythm player. honestly at this point Wade should be a sixth man, that would be perfect.
Wade as sixth man and a guy like Asik or Gortat and the Heat are steamrolling this league next year

with regards to the bolded.

Use a traditional big, and you destroy Miami's spacing. If the guy isn't quick on his feet, it'll hurt Miami's defensive scheme.

[Trollsmasher]

No, it'll allow them to play a normal defense. They play this retarded shit only because they don't have a center.

[Flash31]

NO NO No

anyone saying otherwise(lebron stans,morons) is fn stupid

LeBron plays better without Wade bc he plays better with shooters and
theres more room for LeBron but as a team on the defensive end and Offense
they play way better with Wade


This is like saying
Would the Thunder be better without Westbrook?
Woulf the Clippers be better without Chris Paul?

[Mass Debator]

You're asking for like Cleveland 2.0. Sure you have Bosh now, but I doubt they could've beat the Spurs in 2007 with a prime Bosh and Lebron.

Wade, Lebron, and Bosh are basically the perfect defensive combo (more ideal if Oden was healthy and ready). You have three players who are quick on their feet and have around a 7' wingspan. Wade gives the team another dimension when Lebron is "contained" so it's difficult to account for both unless you have 2 great defensive stoppers or a big ass center who gets away with verticality. The Heat win games by playing elite team defense and their offense will come naturally because of it.

What the Heat needs is for their shooters to be more consistent. Chalmers, Battier, and Ray Ray need to be hitting at least 40% for the Heat to be playing at their best. No one wants Wade and Lebron pounding the ball inside all game long risking injuries. You don't need like 4 shooters on the court to have proper spacing.

Plus, Wade is the heart and soul of the team. When the going gets tough, he gets going even if it means playing until his knees are gone. He makes the detail plays that changes the game. His hustle in crunch time is second to none. But yeah, he needs to stop getting hurt. -__-

[JebronLames]

No, but Bosh is more important than wade.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

NO NO No

anyone saying otherwise(lebron stans,morons) is fn stupid

LeBron plays better without Wade bc he plays better with shooters and
theres more room for LeBron but as a team on the defensive end and Offense
they play way better with Wade


This is like saying
Would the Thunder be better without Westbrook?
Woulf the Clippers be better without Chris Paul?

yeah cuz wade is currently as good as those guys right??
look i love Wade, hes a baller. But he isnt that good anymore he just shouldnt dominate the ball anymore, play OFF lebron. thats when hes most effective. can still shut down elite guards more often than not thats great.
then take over when lebron is out. Wade is a no rythm player. he doesnt need rythm to take over and thats great.
for real doe, he HOULD be a sixth man and get the same minutes. that way he can play every mionute when lebron is out and still finish close games.
also he wouldnt hurt their chemistry as much when he sits out all those games.
Wade is like the PERFECT 6th man, i honestly believe he would average around 17-20 PPG like that

[Dresta]

also Wades constant sitting out of games then coming back then sitting out again is what causes the heat to have MAJOR chemistry problems.
Wade often comes back after sitting out a few games and takes 3-4 more shots in the first half then LeBron.
thats insane.
Heat are at their best when Wade plays completely off LeBron and focuses on defense to shut down their best guard.
he can then take over as soon as lebron sits.
wade is a player who doesnt need rythm, hes instant offense. LEBron is a rythm player. honestly at this point Wade should be a sixth man, that would be perfect.
Wade as sixth man and a guy like Asik or Gortat and the Heat are steamrolling this league next year

[Mass Debator]

yeah cuz wade is currently as good as those guys right??
look i love Wade, hes a baller. But he isnt that good anymore he just shouldnt dominate the ball anymore, play OFF lebron. thats when hes most effective. can still shut down elite guards more often than not thats great.
then take over when lebron is out. Wade is a no rythm player. he doesnt need rythm to take over and thats great.
for real doe, he HOULD be a sixth man and get the same minutes. that way he can play every mionute when lebron is out and still finish close games.
also he wouldnt hurt their chemistry as much when he sits out all those games.
Wade is like the PERFECT 6th man, i honestly believe he would average around 17-20 PPG like that

He's basically playing a 6th man role. He checks out early for Ray Ray and commands the second unit in the second/fourth quarter. They play like 10 minutes without each other while stilling playing 33+ minutes.

Or did you want Wade to come off the bench and have Lebron check out early?